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Posted by Himpg on April 1, 2007, 8:30 am
 
40mpg.org WEEKLY UPDATE
TELL REP. MARKEY: MORE MPG ... AND FASTER!

March 22, 2007: We need your help to send a message to Massachusetts
Congressman Ed Markey today!

http://action.40mpg.org/campaign/MARKEY_MORE_MPG

Rep. Markey is calling for improved federal fuel-economy standards of
35 MPG by 2018.

http://markey.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id&88&Itemid 1

We can do better! The technology exists today to achieve greater fuel
efficiency faster.  If we don't move to adopt these technologies, the
American auto industry will fall further behind the German and
Japanese automakers who are rapidly adopting new technologies.  People
outside the U.S. already have 161 highly fuel efficient cars to choose
from

http://www.40mpg.org/getinf/021407release.cfm

and these cars meet or exceed U.S. emission and safety standards.
Since Congressman Ed Markey is going to play a big role in what the
U.S. House decides on fuel-efficiency targets, 40MPG.org is urging you
to send the Congressman an email message today to exercise bold
leadership and upgrade his fuel-efficiency plan to get 44 MPG by
2010.

http://action.40mpg.org/campaign/MARKEY_MORE_MPG

Or, you can call Rep. Markey's office directly at 202-225-2836 ...
[ask him for "44 MPG by 2010"]
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Also you might call  and use the key words "44 MPG by 2010!":
   Rep. John Dingell's  office directly at 202-225-4071
   House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's  office directly at 202-225-4965
   Speaker of the Senate Harry Reid's  office directly at
202-224-3542
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Posted by trader4 on April 1, 2007, 9:51 am
 

Forget about the US auto industry.  Ain't it a curious thing, that
with these readily available foreign built high mileage wonder cars
and a US population that supposidly wants to buy lots of them, that no
one chooses to sell them here?   The profit potential should be
endless and they could take market share away from Detroit, so why do
we need a law to force them on consumers?   Sounds like the reality is
not quite what it appears to be.


Posted by Himpg on April 2, 2007, 1:01 pm
 On Apr 1, 9:51 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:

You are correct that things are not as they seem!

Why are high mpg vehicles excluded from the US market?

There seem to be a "game" in play. Diesels are precluded due to NOx
but no one seems to know how far outside the domestic limits these 50
amd 60 mpg(US) vehicles are.

Detroit contends that people won't buy improved mpg ... my question is
what would happen if they offered 40+mpg? The Civic, Fit, Yaris are
all selling reasonably well in the higher 30s mpg.

In Europe, the BIG 3 already have 50 mpg(US) combined average!


Posted by bubbabubbs on April 2, 2007, 3:13 pm
 
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The European versions have smaller engines. E.g., they have a 1.4L
Civic in Europe. Americans want more hp.


Posted by trader4 on April 2, 2007, 4:54 pm
 On Apr 2, 2:13 pm, bubbabu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Exactly.   This clown has links that cite surveys that show a high
percentage of Americans
want vehicles with high fuel economy.   Like that's some kind of
surprise.  What they
should do is show them what one of these 40MPG miracle cars from
Europe looks like
and ask them if they would buy it.    Then you'd have your real
answer.  But, you don't need
a survery all you have to do is look on the highway.   If people want
better fuel economy,
all they have to do is trade in their SUVs for cars that are already
in the showroomthat would
get substantially more MPG.

And then, there is this gem:

"There seem to be a "game" in play. Diesels are precluded due to NOx
but no one seems to know how far outside the domestic limits these 50
amd 60 mpg(US) vehicles are. "

Hmmm, and who would be doing that precluding?   Could it be the
environmemtalists that don't like
anything?    They want fuel efficient cars, but then diesel is no good
because it doesn't have just the
right emissions profile.   They bitch about global warming and want a
cut back in carbon fuels.   So,
a nuclear plant is proposed, but guess what?   They are opposed to
that too.    The final hypocrisy is
even when a company wants to build wind mills, which was supposed to
be another perfect solution,
guess what happens?    Here in NJ, the environmental groups are all
opposed to those too.

In short, what you hear is pie in the sky rhetoric, but when it comes
to reality, that's a different thing
altogether.






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