Posted by jplasater on March 1, 2005, 11:11 am
We are building a house that is about 2200 sq ft. The kitchen and
utility room are at one end and the bedroom/bathrooms are at the
other. We want to consider either installing two hot water
heaters(one in each end) or a circulating hot water system. We would
appreciate receiving any advice and experience to help us in this
choice. We are told by our builder that the original cost is about
the same. Thanks
Posted by John A. Weeks III on March 1, 2005, 12:56 pm
jplasater@NOSPAMjuno.com wrote:
> We are building a house that is about 2200 sq ft. The kitchen and
> utility room are at one end and the bedroom/bathrooms are at the
> other. We want to consider either installing two hot water
> heaters(one in each end) or a circulating hot water system. We would
> appreciate receiving any advice and experience to help us in this
> choice. We are told by our builder that the original cost is about
> the same. Thanks
You might want to check code on this. Circulating hot water
is a huge energy waster, and it is illegal in many states.
One option for the kitchen/utility area is an instant hot
water heater under-sink. These are popular in Europe, and
they do a pretty good job. Otherwise, check out electric
storage water heaters. They are super insulated. The idea
is that you get off-peak metering and heat the water at
night. The insulation keeps it warm during the day, and
it takes only a little power to keep the temperature topped
off.
-john-
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Posted by Charles Spitzer on March 1, 2005, 1:38 pm
> jplasater@NOSPAMjuno.com wrote:
>> We are building a house that is about 2200 sq ft. The kitchen and
>> utility room are at one end and the bedroom/bathrooms are at the
>> other. We want to consider either installing two hot water
>> heaters(one in each end) or a circulating hot water system. We would
>> appreciate receiving any advice and experience to help us in this
>> choice. We are told by our builder that the original cost is about
>> the same. Thanks
> You might want to check code on this. Circulating hot water
> is a huge energy waster, and it is illegal in many states.
> One option for the kitchen/utility area is an instant hot
> water heater under-sink. These are popular in Europe, and
> they do a pretty good job. Otherwise, check out electric
> storage water heaters. They are super insulated. The idea
> is that you get off-peak metering and heat the water at
> night. The insulation keeps it warm during the day, and
> it takes only a little power to keep the temperature topped
> off.
and yet, here, the local gov't subsidizes use of circulators. of course,
they save an incredible amount of water, we live in the middle of a desert
and have a 7 year drought going on.
regards,
charlie
phx, az
> -john-
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> ======================================================================
> John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john@johnweeks.com
> Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
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Posted by v on March 2, 2005, 5:37 pm
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:38:43 -0700, someone wrote:
>and yet, here, the local gov't subsidizes use of circulators. of course,
>they save an incredible amount of water, we live in the middle of a desert
>and have a 7 year drought going on.
Waste one or waste the other. In a desert where water is precious,
certainly they don't want people running the water down the drain.
But for more normal situations, I doubt the savings is "incredible".
If I ran my bathroom faucet for a minute to get the hot water to come
up, it wouldn't half fill a 5 gallon bucket. Sure there is a savings
and if you multiply anything by millions of people you get a big
number.
So the water company likes the circulators - but what does the power
company think of those millions of small heating loops running 24/7
during air-conditioning season - the waste of electricity is
incredible, LOL.
Reply to NG only - this e.mail address goes to a kill file.
Posted by Charles Spitzer on March 2, 2005, 5:57 pm
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:38:43 -0700, someone wrote:
>>and yet, here, the local gov't subsidizes use of circulators. of course,
>>they save an incredible amount of water, we live in the middle of a desert
>>and have a 7 year drought going on.
>>
> Waste one or waste the other. In a desert where water is precious,
> certainly they don't want people running the water down the drain.
> But for more normal situations, I doubt the savings is "incredible".
> If I ran my bathroom faucet for a minute to get the hot water to come
> up, it wouldn't half fill a 5 gallon bucket. Sure there is a savings
> and if you multiply anything by millions of people you get a big
> number.
> So the water company likes the circulators - but what does the power
> company think of those millions of small heating loops running 24/7
> during air-conditioning season - the waste of electricity is
> incredible, LOL.
they love them. we have a big nuke to power them. most houses in this area
are built on a concrete slab directly on the ground, with underslab pipes.
most of the heat goes down, not up.
> Reply to NG only - this e.mail address goes to a kill file.
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> utility room are at one end and the bedroom/bathrooms are at the
> other. We want to consider either installing two hot water
> heaters(one in each end) or a circulating hot water system. We would
> appreciate receiving any advice and experience to help us in this
> choice. We are told by our builder that the original cost is about
> the same. Thanks