Posted by Andy on October 12, 2006, 12:04 pm
I'm a newby to hotwater heating and just purchased a home with an older
boiler and radiators throughout the house. We're planning some renos
and are hoping to remove at least the radiator in the kitchen (possibly
the entire main floor) to make way for more cabinets. Is it possible to
use radiant floor heating in the kitchen while leaving the remainder of
the rads in the rest of the house? The basement is completely open, so
I'm guessing that it would be rather straight forward to install the
plastic tubing etc.
Andy
Posted by Alan Moorman on October 14, 2006, 8:45 am
wrote:
>I'm a newby to hotwater heating and just purchased a home with an older
>boiler and radiators throughout the house. We're planning some renos
>and are hoping to remove at least the radiator in the kitchen (possibly
>the entire main floor) to make way for more cabinets. Is it possible to
>use radiant floor heating in the kitchen while leaving the remainder of
>the rads in the rest of the house? The basement is completely open, so
>I'm guessing that it would be rather straight forward to install the
>plastic tubing etc.
>Andy
I have hot water heating, with radiators, in my house, and it is the
nicest, friendliest kind of heat. Not drying, like forced air
systems.
When I remodeled the kitchen 15 years ago, I took out one of the two
radiators that were there. The one I removed was on an inside wall,
under the old-fashioned hanging-on-the-wall sink. (I put in modern
cabinets, with had no possibility of keeping the radiator.)
The other kitchen radiator was in the breakfast nook, on an outside
wall. Being on an outside wall, it probably has more to do with
keeping the kitchen warm. Haven't noticed any problem by taking out
the one radiator.
Anyway, my advice is to not take out ALL the radiators in any one
room. If you have any kind of winter, you will probably notice that
the room isn't as warm as the rest of the house.
However, if you keep doors open in the house, that room might be OK
without that radiator. It's hard to say -- given that you haven't
said how large the kitchen is, and what the size of the radiator is.
As to putting in radiant heat in the floor? You should get a
professional's opinion on that -- there is no guaranteed that your
hot water system will handle the radiant equipment properly. It
might, or it might not. And, you may not want to do the whole floor,
just a part. Those questions could be answered better by a heating
professional.
Alan
==
It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death.
I just think we should take the warning labels off of everything
and let the problem take care of itself.
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Posted by Andy on October 16, 2006, 10:49 am
AlanMoorman@visi.com wrote:
> wrote:
> >I'm a newby to hotwater heating and just purchased a home with an older
> >boiler and radiators throughout the house. We're planning some renos
> >and are hoping to remove at least the radiator in the kitchen (possibly
> >the entire main floor) to make way for more cabinets. Is it possible to
> >use radiant floor heating in the kitchen while leaving the remainder of
> >the rads in the rest of the house? The basement is completely open, so
> >I'm guessing that it would be rather straight forward to install the
> >plastic tubing etc.
> >
> >Andy
> I have hot water heating, with radiators, in my house, and it is the
> nicest, friendliest kind of heat. Not drying, like forced air
> systems.
> When I remodeled the kitchen 15 years ago, I took out one of the two
> radiators that were there. The one I removed was on an inside wall,
> under the old-fashioned hanging-on-the-wall sink. (I put in modern
> cabinets, with had no possibility of keeping the radiator.)
> The other kitchen radiator was in the breakfast nook, on an outside
> wall. Being on an outside wall, it probably has more to do with
> keeping the kitchen warm. Haven't noticed any problem by taking out
> the one radiator.
> Anyway, my advice is to not take out ALL the radiators in any one
> room. If you have any kind of winter, you will probably notice that
> the room isn't as warm as the rest of the house.
> However, if you keep doors open in the house, that room might be OK
> without that radiator. It's hard to say -- given that you haven't
> said how large the kitchen is, and what the size of the radiator is.
> As to putting in radiant heat in the floor? You should get a
> professional's opinion on that -- there is no guaranteed that your
> hot water system will handle the radiant equipment properly. It
> might, or it might not. And, you may not want to do the whole floor,
> just a part. Those questions could be answered better by a heating
> professional.
> Alan
> ==
> It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death.
> I just think we should take the warning labels off of everything
> and let the problem take care of itself.
Thanks Alan
The kitchen is quite small, approximately 9x 12' and we'll be opening
up some walls to make the entire main floor one big open space. So I'm
thinking that we may be fine without the rad in the kitchen. There are
4 other rads on the main floor.
Andy
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
Posted by Alan Sung on October 17, 2006, 8:24 am
> The kitchen is quite small, approximately 9x 12' and we'll be opening
> up some walls to make the entire main floor one big open space. So I'm
> thinking that we may be fine without the rad in the kitchen. There are
> 4 other rads on the main floor.
> Andy
> > --------------------------------------------------------
What you can do is install a toe kick heater that is hidden under the new
kitchen cabinets. It is basically a horizontal laying radiator with an
electric squirrel cage fan behind it that is turned on by a thermostat. When
hot water flows through the unit, the fan automatically turns on. Some of
the better units have a very quiet fan so you can barely tell they are on.
-al sung
Rapid Realm Technology, Inc.
Hopkinton, MA
Posted by Andy on October 19, 2006, 3:12 pm
Thanks Alan
That looks like the perfect solution! I'll look into it.
Andy
Alan Sung wrote:
> > The kitchen is quite small, approximately 9x 12' and we'll be opening
> > up some walls to make the entire main floor one big open space. So I'm
> > thinking that we may be fine without the rad in the kitchen. There are
> > 4 other rads on the main floor.
> > Andy
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> What you can do is install a toe kick heater that is hidden under the new
> kitchen cabinets. It is basically a horizontal laying radiator with an
> electric squirrel cage fan behind it that is turned on by a thermostat. When
> hot water flows through the unit, the fan automatically turns on. Some of
> the better units have a very quiet fan so you can barely tell they are on.
>
> -al sung
> Rapid Realm Technology, Inc.
> Hopkinton, MA
>boiler and radiators throughout the house. We're planning some renos
>and are hoping to remove at least the radiator in the kitchen (possibly
>the entire main floor) to make way for more cabinets. Is it possible to
>use radiant floor heating in the kitchen while leaving the remainder of
>the rads in the rest of the house? The basement is completely open, so
>I'm guessing that it would be rather straight forward to install the
>plastic tubing etc.
>Andy