Posted by Elle on September 30, 2006, 10:18 am
> So now I can either ignore the letter in which case the
> board could
> fine me without a hearing and impose whatever ungodly
> amount they
> choose. Or I can request and appear at this "hearing" and
> things could
> get out of hand.
The HOA hearing members might also agree with you and
dismiss the fine.
I do not think the HOA is necessarily being outrageous. Its
job it to protect property values. When you bought your
place, did you not receive documents describing the terms of
ownership? Give the hearing process a chance to work. This
process exists precisely for people who might have
reasonable explanations/excuses and so should exculpated
from a fine.
Posted by John A. Weeks III on September 30, 2006, 2:24 pm
email_invalid@mail2world.com wrote:
> Now TWO F_ING MONTHS LATER,the HOA is mailing me to fine me over not
> mowing the lawn and says I can request a hearing within 10 working days
> or I'll waive my right to be heard. IMO, it is outrageous because they
> are considering fining me over an issue two months ago that has been
> since resolved.
2 months is about right. It takes a month or so for the item
to get on the agenda at the next meeting, and then maybe a 2nd
board meeting 30 days later to finalize the action.
-john-
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Posted by trader4 on October 1, 2006, 4:32 am
John A. Weeks III wrote:
> email_invalid@mail2world.com wrote:
> > Now TWO F_ING MONTHS LATER,the HOA is mailing me to fine me over not
> > mowing the lawn and says I can request a hearing within 10 working days
> > or I'll waive my right to be heard. IMO, it is outrageous because they
> > are considering fining me over an issue two months ago that has been
> > since resolved.
> 2 months is about right. It takes a month or so for the item
> to get on the agenda at the next meeting, and then maybe a 2nd
> board meeting 30 days later to finalize the action.
> -john-
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If you live in an area with a HOA that has requirements the lawn to be
kept cut, then why didn't you make arrangements for it to be cut while
you were away for "a couple of weeks?" If I lived across the street,
I wouldn't want to be looking at your uncut lawn and perhaps there were
complaints. Now you're all torqued up and seem ready to start a war,
instead of simply going to the violation hearing, calmly explaining
what happened and hoping for the best. If the problem has been
corrected and you haven;t had similar issues before, they likely will
drop the fine.
I also agree with John above. Usually there has to be a meeting of a
violations committee or similar to issue the notice. It hasn't even
been two months from early Aug till now. Sounds about normal to me.
Posted by email_invalid on September 30, 2006, 6:55 pm
> I do not think the HOA is necessarily being outrageous. Its
> job it to protect property values. When you bought your
> place, did you not receive documents describing the terms of
> ownership? Give the hearing process a chance to work. This
> process exists precisely for people who might have
> reasonable explanations/excuses and so should exculpated
> from a fine.
It is outrageous to me that they are sending out a letter on Sep 26 on
an Aug 3 issue. The point of considering fines is to enforce rules on
non-complying owners. I have fixed the issue as soon as I could and
AFAIK have been maintaining the lawn in a reasonable condition for the
past two months.
To do this over an old issue is outrageous unless they are expressly
trying to be punitive rather than threaten fines expressly to get
people to get things done. There's no excuse I can think of for why
they are mailing me about this two months later.
Posted by v on October 1, 2006, 1:13 pm
On 30 Sep 2006 06:39:02 -0700, someone wrote:
>Why are they waiting two months to seek a fine over an issue that was
>resolved and that has not been an issue for the past TWO (2) months?
Probably took them that long to have their meeting and report back at
the next meeting and meet to decide what to do and eventually they
resolved to issue a fine. So what? Is there some kind of "statute of
limitations" in the by-laws that they must cite you within a lesser
period of time?
File your appeal. Maybe the hearing officer will give you a break
being that you are now in compliance. However it seems like you have
a history of violations, which you are glossing over with excuses that
they only had to ask you sometimes, and that you paid a lot of money
to fix your sprinkler, whatever.
Appeal or pay.
Reply to NG only - this e.mail address goes to a kill file.
> board could
> fine me without a hearing and impose whatever ungodly
> amount they
> choose. Or I can request and appear at this "hearing" and
> things could
> get out of hand.