Posted by larry moe 'n curly on January 29, 2005, 8:12 am
I need to replace a really old electric solar water heater in a
domestic hot water system, and I'll buy a conventional electric heater
because solar tanks cost much more but are of inferior quality.
Conventional heaters are usually modified for solar use by shortening
the dip tube in half and using it as the inlet for the solar-heated
water, and the drain opening replaces the normal dip tube for cold
water But I found this diagram:
www.solardev.com/images/hotwater_r2_c1.gif
which shows an unmodified conventional tank being used for solar
heating.
Instead of feeding the solar-heated water into the middle of the tank,
in this diagram it goes into the bottom. Will that work well?
Posted by TT on January 29, 2005, 10:11 pm
Honestly, if your solar collector system & pump are really old you might as
well just cap the solar collector off and put a conventional water heater
in. I just did that in my home when the solar water heater went out. I spoke
to several solar water heating experts and they basically said my old solar
system (late 70's early 80's mfg. date) was useless.
-Tom
> I need to replace a really old electric solar water heater in a
> domestic hot water system, and I'll buy a conventional electric heater
> because solar tanks cost much more but are of inferior quality.
> Conventional heaters are usually modified for solar use by shortening
> the dip tube in half and using it as the inlet for the solar-heated
> water, and the drain opening replaces the normal dip tube for cold
> water But I found this diagram:
> www.solardev.com/images/hotwater_r2_c1.gif
> which shows an unmodified conventional tank being used for solar
> heating.
> Instead of feeding the solar-heated water into the middle of the tank,
> in this diagram it goes into the bottom. Will that work well?
Posted by Bob Ward on January 29, 2005, 10:27 pm
>Honestly, if your solar collector system & pump are really old you might as
>well just cap the solar collector off and put a conventional water heater
>in. I just did that in my home when the solar water heater went out. I spoke
>to several solar water heating experts and they basically said my old solar
>system (late 70's early 80's mfg. date) was useless.
- as they wrote up an estimate for its replacement...
>-Tom
>> I need to replace a really old electric solar water heater in a
>> domestic hot water system, and I'll buy a conventional electric heater
>> because solar tanks cost much more but are of inferior quality.
>>
>> Conventional heaters are usually modified for solar use by shortening
>> the dip tube in half and using it as the inlet for the solar-heated
>> water, and the drain opening replaces the normal dip tube for cold
>> water But I found this diagram:
>>
>> www.solardev.com/images/hotwater_r2_c1.gif
>>
>> which shows an unmodified conventional tank being used for solar
>> heating.
>> Instead of feeding the solar-heated water into the middle of the tank,
>> in this diagram it goes into the bottom. Will that work well?
>>
Posted by TT on January 29, 2005, 10:34 pm
I replaced the water heater myself and I told them up front all I needed was
advice.
-T
> >Honestly, if your solar collector system & pump are really old you might
as
> >well just cap the solar collector off and put a conventional water heater
> >in. I just did that in my home when the solar water heater went out. I
spoke
> >to several solar water heating experts and they basically said my old
solar
> >system (late 70's early 80's mfg. date) was useless.
> >
> - as they wrote up an estimate for its replacement...
> >-Tom
> >
> >> I need to replace a really old electric solar water heater in a
> >> domestic hot water system, and I'll buy a conventional electric heater
> >> because solar tanks cost much more but are of inferior quality.
> >>
> >> Conventional heaters are usually modified for solar use by shortening
> >> the dip tube in half and using it as the inlet for the solar-heated
> >> water, and the drain opening replaces the normal dip tube for cold
> >> water But I found this diagram:
> >>
> >> www.solardev.com/images/hotwater_r2_c1.gif
> >>
> >> which shows an unmodified conventional tank being used for solar
> >> heating.
> >> Instead of feeding the solar-heated water into the middle of the tank,
> >> in this diagram it goes into the bottom. Will that work well?
> >>
> >
Posted by larry moe 'n curly on January 29, 2005, 11:16 pm
Bob Ward wrote:
>>> I found this diagram:
>>>
>>> www.solardev.com/images/hotwater_r2_c1.gif
>>>
>>> which shows an unmodified conventional tank being used
>>> for solar heating. Instead of feeding the solar-heated
>>> water into the middle of the tank, in this diagram it
>>> goes into the bottom. Will that work well?
>> Honestly, if your solar collector system & pump are really
>> old you might as well just cap the solar collector off and
>> put a conventional water heater in. I just did that in my
>> home when the solar water heater went out. I spoke to several
>> solar water heating experts and they basically said my old
>> solar system (late 70's early 80's mfg. date) was useless.
>>
>> - as they wrote up an estimate for its replacement...
Solar companies want about $750 for a 65 gal solar tank, and that's for
one without a heat exchanger (which I don't need).
I can understand a system from the early 1980s being worn out, but if
it's still in good condition, how it can be useless, provided it was
installed right in the first place (my neighbor's had some plumbing
connections wrong and a missing check valve)? I doubt that today's
solar hot water systems are much better, at least those made for
climates where freezing is rare (my freeze protection merely turns on
the pump).
What I don't understand about the hookup in that diagram is that it
shows water going both in and out through the same pipe at the bottom.
It's not a misprint because I saw the same for an Australian system.
> domestic hot water system, and I'll buy a conventional electric heater
> because solar tanks cost much more but are of inferior quality.
> Conventional heaters are usually modified for solar use by shortening
> the dip tube in half and using it as the inlet for the solar-heated
> water, and the drain opening replaces the normal dip tube for cold
> water But I found this diagram:
> www.solardev.com/images/hotwater_r2_c1.gif
> which shows an unmodified conventional tank being used for solar
> heating.
> Instead of feeding the solar-heated water into the middle of the tank,
> in this diagram it goes into the bottom. Will that work well?