Posted by OhioGuy on March 13, 2008, 8:06 am
Last month ours was roughly $325. It sounds high, but that also includes
winter heating of our home in the coldest month as well. (I switched from
natural gas to electric when our furnace acted up a bit, and when I heard
that natural gas was going up this winter about 20% compared to electric)
Our house is 1,300 square feet. Though I've insulated it and done a lot of
caulking, it's 90 years old, and I don't think I'll ever really make it
efficient when it comes to heating. (at least by today's standards)
Posted by Al Bundy on March 13, 2008, 7:38 am
> Last month ours was roughly $325. It sounds high, but that also includes
> winter heating of our home in the coldest month as well. (I switched from
> natural gas to electric when our furnace acted up a bit, and when I heard
> that natural gas was going up this winter about 20% compared to electric)
> Our house is 1,300 square feet. Though I've insulated it and done a lot of
> caulking, it's 90 years old, and I don't think I'll ever really make it
> efficient when it comes to heating. (at least by today's standards)
OG throws us another bone.
We don't know what he pays for electric per unit or what type of
heaters he uses. Apparently, OG has one of these "flex fuel" homes
where you just flip a switch from gas to electric. Or did he buy space
heaters at Wal*Mart? The gas furnace "acted up a bit." Does that sound
like a major expense requiring a switch to normally more expensive
electric? He's insulated the home, but won't tell us to what degree.
Once a person has done all they can, it doesn't matter what the hell
other's heat bill is.
While I know in my heart he's spoofing us again, I will say that he
could have an infrared analysis to determine any heat leaks that might
be addressed.
Posted by James on March 13, 2008, 9:11 am
> > Last month ours was roughly $325. It sounds high, but that also includes
> > winter heating of our home in the coldest month as well. (I switched from
> > natural gas to electric when our furnace acted up a bit, and when I heard
> > that natural gas was going up this winter about 20% compared to electric)
> > Our house is 1,300 square feet. Though I've insulated it and done a lot of
> > caulking, it's 90 years old, and I don't think I'll ever really make it
> > efficient when it comes to heating. (at least by today's standards)
> OG throws us another bone.
> We don't know what he pays for electric per unit or what type of
> heaters he uses. Apparently, OG has one of these "flex fuel" homes
> where you just flip a switch from gas to electric. Or did he buy space
> heaters at Wal*Mart? The gas furnace "acted up a bit." Does that sound
> like a major expense requiring a switch to normally more expensive
> electric? He's insulated the home, but won't tell us to what degree.
> Once a person has done all they can, it doesn't matter what the hell
> other's heat bill is.
> While I know in my heart he's spoofing us again, I will say that he
> could have an infrared analysis to determine any heat leaks that might
> be addressed.
Colour me sceptical.....
Posted by Jeff on March 13, 2008, 3:08 pm
OhioGuy wrote:
> Last month ours was roughly $325. It sounds high, but that also includes
> winter heating of our home in the coldest month as well. (I switched from
> natural gas to electric when our furnace acted up a bit, and when I heard
> that natural gas was going up this winter about 20% compared to electric)
What are you paying for electric? Are you using a heat pump?
There's about 29 kWhr in a Therm.
So if you are paying $.10/kWHr that would be $2.90 Therm. That would
be for resistance heating. A Heat Pump will leverage against that by up
to around 3, much less to even if it is near freezing.
Natural Gas is a much cheaper heat source in a cold climate than
electric.
> Our house is 1,300 square feet. Though I've insulated it and done a lot of
> caulking, it's 90 years old, and I don't think I'll ever really make it
> efficient when it comes to heating. (at least by today's standards)
Did you insulate the walls? Have you done anything with the windows
like Bubble Wrap or storm windows or just blocking them off? I live in a
1920 house, and have done all that and found my comfort factor has gone
way up. I'm also in Atlanta where winters are 10 to 15 degrees warmer
than Ohio (Average 2800 degree days versus 5500 for Columbus, Ohio). My
electric last month was $73 ($90 in January) for 1800 SF, no gas,
heating with electric space heaters and a bit of solar. Now, I think I
can do better than that.
No matter how much insulation you pour into an attic if you have
uninsulated walls or a floor your heat is leaving that way. I've spent
about $250 insulating the walls with cocoon and I think it is one of the
best things I've ever done. You smaller home should be much less.
Jeff
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>
Posted by Cindy Hamilton on March 17, 2008, 1:36 pm
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> >>>> No matter how much insulation you pour into an attic if you have
> >>>> uninsulated walls or a floor your heat is leaving that way. I've spent
> >>>> about $250 insulating the walls with cocoon and I think it is one of the
> >>>> best things I've ever done. You smaller home should be much less.
> >>> what's cocoon and how is it installed?
> >>http://www.cocooninsulation.com/
> >> It's recycled paper treated with borax to make it fire retardant and
> >> insect proof. Borax is used in eye wash so the insulation is much more
> >> enviro friendly than the other options. It's also the cheapest by a good
> >> margin.
> >> It's sold compressed in bags. Each $8 bag will dense pack 32 SF of
> >> wall to R13. Because it's dense, it will also stop air infiltration
> >> leaks. So, if you have an old house, pre 1980, there's a good chance
> >> that you have uninsulated R3 walls and this will cut heat losses there
> >> by a factor of 5. It really makes a formerly unheatable room stay warm
> >> even when you turn the heat off.
> >> You install this by drilling 1" holes above and below the firebreaks
> >> in every 16" wall section (that's usually two holes per section). Cocoon
> >> has nice directions on doing this. If you have sheetrock, it's dead easy
> >> to drill through. If you have plaster/lath it'll be easier to cut the
> >> holes outside as plaster will eat your hole saw teeth off. It's a lot of
> >> holes! You plug em with a can of spray insulation and spackle over that.
> > My walls are concrete block. The sheetrock is attached to thin
> > furring
> > strips and skim-coated with plaster. (The outside is faced with
> > granite.)
> > No place to put insulation without a LOT of trouble.
> Well, I certainly hope you live in a temperate climate!
Not particularly. Not particular intemperate, either. Ann Arbor,
Michigan.
My heating bills run about $100 - $120 per month; it's not a very big
house.
Cindy Hamilton
> winter heating of our home in the coldest month as well. (I switched from
> natural gas to electric when our furnace acted up a bit, and when I heard
> that natural gas was going up this winter about 20% compared to electric)
> Our house is 1,300 square feet. Though I've insulated it and done a lot of
> caulking, it's 90 years old, and I don't think I'll ever really make it
> efficient when it comes to heating. (at least by today's standards)