Posted by tmclone on March 4, 2010, 5:58 pm
> john mayfield added these comments in the current discussion du
> jour ...
> > I keep hearing that I should write a will. I'm 65 years old ,
> > living in a small terraced house in North London (u.k.) together
> > with wife 61 years old and son 29 years old.
> > The house is worth about just under 300K which is below the
> > inheritence threshold and is owned jointly (tenants in common)
> > with my wife. My total savings are small.
> > When I die I would wish to leave it all the wife, and any amount
> > to my son that enables him not to pay any inheritance tax.
> > I guess thats a fairly common kind of family situation, without
> > any additional complications; so I thought it would be fairly
> > easy to get advice on how to write a will.
> > On google I can get up to 7 million returns on my searches, but
> > everyone I've looked at wants to make money out giving any
> > advice. With plenty of 'a bad will is worse than no will' kind
> > of suggestions, thrown in.
> > Is the advice that you *should* make a will really applicable to
> > someone like myself? What would be any advantages to having a
> > will?
> > The nearest I have got so far to creating one is a bit of
> > information I picked up, which says I can just write out roughly
> > as follow:
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----------
> > This will 'dated' .........by 'john........' of
> > 'address'......
> > I revoke all earlier wills and Codicils.
> > I appoint as my executor and trustees my wife 'name'........ and
> > my son .......
> > I give my Estate and Possesions to my wife ............
> > If she does not survive me I give my Estate and possisions to my
> > son ......
> I know nothing about UK law but in the US, everything automatically
> goes to the spouse unless there is a pre-nup OR possessions and
> money are kept separate, then a will would apply. In many/most
> marriages, all assets are held jointly, so no probate is needed
> when one spouse dies. Children are another matter. Sometimes
> arguments break out.
There's no "automatically" about it, at least not in NY. For example,
if you have designated someone other than your spouse as a beneficiary
of a life insurance policy (although spouse must sign off on that),
that person receives the money when you die, will or no will.
If there is no will the estate goes through probate. All bets are off
if that happens.
Oh, and only in a few marriages are all assests held jointly. It's
extremely unusual for ALL assets to be held jointly. Maybe never-
worked-stay-at-home-wifies (are there still any of those?) would like
it that way, but those of us who have supported ourselves for our
entire lives actually have our own assets, in our own (not hubbie's)
name. Less than 50% of women who marry take their husbands' names
these days. Welcome to the 21st century.
Posted by RobertL on March 5, 2010, 10:23 am
> I keep hearing that I should write a will. I'm 65 years old , living in a
> small terraced house in North London (u.k.) together with wife 61 years old
> and son 29 years old.
> The house is worth about just under 300K which is below the inheritence
> threshold and is owned jointly (tenants in common) with my wife. My total
> savings are small.
Typically a couple would own the house as joint tenants so the
survivor owns it regardless of the will, but you say that you own the
house TinC so the survivor will not inherit the house automatically -
it goes by the will or by the intestacy rules if there is no will.
See here for what happens if you don't have a will:
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/civil/probate/why_will.htm#int=
estacy
Without a will only the first £250,000 goes to the widow. the rest
goes to the deceased's children 9with widow getting the interest from
half of it).
You don't say what the poportions of ownership of the house are, but
if it is 99% yours, for example, then without a will she would not
even inherit the whole house.
Robert
IANAL
> jour ...
> > I keep hearing that I should write a will. I'm 65 years old ,
> > living in a small terraced house in North London (u.k.) together
> > with wife 61 years old and son 29 years old.
> > The house is worth about just under 300K which is below the
> > inheritence threshold and is owned jointly (tenants in common)
> > with my wife. My total savings are small.
> > When I die I would wish to leave it all the wife, and any amount
> > to my son that enables him not to pay any inheritance tax.
> > I guess thats a fairly common kind of family situation, without
> > any additional complications; so I thought it would be fairly
> > easy to get advice on how to write a will.
> > On google I can get up to 7 million returns on my searches, but
> > everyone I've looked at wants to make money out giving any
> > advice. With plenty of 'a bad will is worse than no will' kind
> > of suggestions, thrown in.
> > Is the advice that you *should* make a will really applicable to
> > someone like myself? What would be any advantages to having a
> > will?
> > The nearest I have got so far to creating one is a bit of
> > information I picked up, which says I can just write out roughly
> > as follow:
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----------
> > This will 'dated' .........by 'john........' of
> > 'address'......
> > I revoke all earlier wills and Codicils.
> > I appoint as my executor and trustees my wife 'name'........ and
> > my son .......
> > I give my Estate and Possesions to my wife ............
> > If she does not survive me I give my Estate and possisions to my
> > son ......
> I know nothing about UK law but in the US, everything automatically
> goes to the spouse unless there is a pre-nup OR possessions and
> money are kept separate, then a will would apply. In many/most
> marriages, all assets are held jointly, so no probate is needed
> when one spouse dies. Children are another matter. Sometimes
> arguments break out.