Posted by Ophelia on March 4, 2010, 1:39 pm
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:32:31 +0000, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>>
>>> Even advice to shove your head up a dead bear's arse ?
>>
>> OH come on!!! People like that chap come to uk.legal expecting help and
>> advice. That was uncalled for
> He was only trying to obtain clarification of a statement made by the
> previous poster.
> What's wrong with that?
> You're not afraid that the previous poster might actually try to follow
> that hypothetical advice, are you? Here in the UK it's very difficult to
> acquire bears, dead or otherwise, and so if the advice was taken,
> hypothetical or otherwise, its implementation would be nigh on impossible.
> No ursine mammals were harmed in the writing of this post.
<g>
It was just the last comment, which someone unacustomed to usenet......
sigh... maybe he was not:(
I guess I am just an old softie...
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Posted by Rod Speed on March 4, 2010, 2:45 pm
Aardvark wrote
> Ophelia wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>> Even advice to shove your head up a dead bear's arse ?
>> OH come on!!! People like that chap come to uk.legal
>> expecting help and advice. That was uncalled for
> He was only trying to obtain clarification of
> a statement made by the previous poster.
> What's wrong with that?
> You're not afraid that the previous poster might actually
> try to follow that hypothetical advice, are you? Here in the
> UK it's very difficult to acquire bears, dead or otherwise,
Thats not true, plenty of teddy bears even on that soggy little island.
> and so if the advice was taken, hypothetical or otherwise,
> its implementation would be nigh on impossible.
Thats not true either, plenty of very large teddy bears and other very large
dead bears.
> No ursine mammals were harmed in the writing of this post.
Posted by Rod Speed on March 4, 2010, 1:37 pm
Ophelia wrote
>> john mayfield wrote
>>> I keep hearing that I should write a will. I'm 65 years old ,
>>> living in a small terraced house in North London (u.k.) together with wife
61 years old and son 29 years old.
>>> The house is worth about just under 300K which is below the
>>> inheritence threshold and is owned jointly (tenants in common) with my wife.
My total savings are small.
>>> When I die I would wish to leave it all the wife, and any amount to my son
that enables him not to pay any
>>> inheritance tax.
>> Thats a bit unspecific. Not clear if you mean that you actually want
>> to leave as much as you can to your son so that he doesnt have to
>> pay any inheritance tax and the rest to your wife or what.
>> If that is what you want to do, you will need a will because
>> dying intestate wont necessarily deliver that result unless
>> your wife is prepared to do exactly what you want, and
>> its unclear whether you wife operates like that or not.
>> And you really need to think about what you want to do if your
>> wife dies before you too. Presumably you want the son to get
>> the lot, even if that does mean he has to pay some inheritance tax.
>>> I guess thats a fairly common kind of family situation,
>> It isnt that common that the son still lives with the parents at that age.
>>> without any additional complications;
>> There always are a few, like whether your wife
>> agrees with the detail of what you want to do or not.
>>> so I thought it would be fairly easy to get advice on how to write a will.
>> Yes, it should be.
>>> On google I can get up to 7 million returns on my searches, but
>>> everyone I've looked at wants to make money out giving any advice.
>> Sure, but there are plenty who dont want any money too.
>>> With plenty of 'a bad will is worse than no will' kind of suggestions,
thrown in.
>> Thats radically overstated with a situation as simple as yours.
>>> Is the advice that you *should* make a will really applicable to
>>> someone like myself?
>> Thats not completely clear given that you havent provided
>> all the information needed to answer that question.
>> If you are completely confident that your wife will do what you want
>> you dont really need a will, particularly if you dont care if your son does
have to pay some inheritance tax if your
>> wife dies before you and there is no real chance of you dying with rather
more assets
>> than you have now and the inheritance tax level isnt changed.
>>> What would be any advantages to having a will?
>> The main one is that you would not then depend
>> on your wife agreeing with what you want to do.
>>> The nearest I have got so far to creating one is a bit of information I
picked up, which says I can just write out
>>> roughly as follow:
>> It makes more sense to start with a free will kit for your country.
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> This will 'dated' .........by 'john........' of 'address'......
>>> I revoke all earlier wills and Codicils.
>>> I appoint as my executor and trustees my wife 'name'........ and my son
.......
>> You really need to allow for what happens if they die before you
>> unless you dont care if the state gets all your money in that situation.
>>> I give my Estate and Possesions to my wife ............
>>> If she does not survive me I give my Estate and possisions to my son......
>> That doesnt do what you say at the top with your
>> son unless the statement at the top is badly worded.
>>> Signed by ............. John 'my name'
>>> In our presence and attested by us in his presence and in the
>>> presence of each other.
>>> Witness 1. signature......., full name ......
>>> address......occupation......
>>> Witness 2. signature......., full name ......
>>> address......occupation......
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Is this really all I need to do?
>> Yes if you are happy with that quite different distribution to the one at the
top.
>>> In fact in my situation do I really even need to do this?
>> Not really except if you want to say who gets everything if both your wife
and your son die before you do.
>>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Even advice to shove your head up a dead bear's arse ?
> OH come on!!! People like that chap come to uk.legal expecting help and advice.
And he got that.
> That was uncalled for:(
That was a joke, Joyce.
Posted by Ophelia on March 4, 2010, 1:49 pm
> Ophelia wrote
>>> john mayfield wrote
>>>> I keep hearing that I should write a will. I'm 65 years old ,
>>>> living in a small terraced house in North London (u.k.) together with
>>>> wife 61 years old and son 29 years old.
>>>> The house is worth about just under 300K which is below the
>>>> inheritence threshold and is owned jointly (tenants in common) with my
>>>> wife. My total savings are small.
>>>> When I die I would wish to leave it all the wife, and any amount to my
>>>> son that enables him not to pay any inheritance tax.
>>> Thats a bit unspecific. Not clear if you mean that you actually want
>>> to leave as much as you can to your son so that he doesnt have to
>>> pay any inheritance tax and the rest to your wife or what.
>>> If that is what you want to do, you will need a will because
>>> dying intestate wont necessarily deliver that result unless
>>> your wife is prepared to do exactly what you want, and
>>> its unclear whether you wife operates like that or not.
>>> And you really need to think about what you want to do if your
>>> wife dies before you too. Presumably you want the son to get
>>> the lot, even if that does mean he has to pay some inheritance tax.
>>>> I guess thats a fairly common kind of family situation,
>>> It isnt that common that the son still lives with the parents at that
>>> age.
>>>> without any additional complications;
>>> There always are a few, like whether your wife
>>> agrees with the detail of what you want to do or not.
>>>> so I thought it would be fairly easy to get advice on how to write a
>>>> will.
>>> Yes, it should be.
>>>> On google I can get up to 7 million returns on my searches, but
>>>> everyone I've looked at wants to make money out giving any advice.
>>> Sure, but there are plenty who dont want any money too.
>>>> With plenty of 'a bad will is worse than no will' kind of suggestions,
>>>> thrown in.
>>> Thats radically overstated with a situation as simple as yours.
>>>> Is the advice that you *should* make a will really applicable to
>>>> someone like myself?
>>> Thats not completely clear given that you havent provided
>>> all the information needed to answer that question.
>>> If you are completely confident that your wife will do what you want
>>> you dont really need a will, particularly if you dont care if your son
>>> does have to pay some inheritance tax if your wife dies before you and
>>> there is no real chance of you dying with rather more assets
>>> than you have now and the inheritance tax level isnt changed.
>>>> What would be any advantages to having a will?
>>> The main one is that you would not then depend
>>> on your wife agreeing with what you want to do.
>>>> The nearest I have got so far to creating one is a bit of information I
>>>> picked up, which says I can just write out roughly as follow:
>>> It makes more sense to start with a free will kit for your country.
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> This will 'dated' .........by 'john........' of 'address'......
>>>> I revoke all earlier wills and Codicils.
>>>> I appoint as my executor and trustees my wife 'name'........ and my son
>>>> .......
>>> You really need to allow for what happens if they die before you
>>> unless you dont care if the state gets all your money in that situation.
>>>> I give my Estate and Possesions to my wife ............
>>>> If she does not survive me I give my Estate and possisions to my
>>>> son......
>>> That doesnt do what you say at the top with your
>>> son unless the statement at the top is badly worded.
>>>> Signed by ............. John 'my name'
>>>> In our presence and attested by us in his presence and in the
>>>> presence of each other.
>>>> Witness 1. signature......., full name ......
>>>> address......occupation......
>>>> Witness 2. signature......., full name ......
>>>> address......occupation......
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Is this really all I need to do?
>>> Yes if you are happy with that quite different distribution to the one
>>> at the top.
>>>> In fact in my situation do I really even need to do this?
>>> Not really except if you want to say who gets everything if both your
>>> wife and your son die before you do.
>>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>> Even advice to shove your head up a dead bear's arse ?
>> OH come on!!! People like that chap come to uk.legal expecting help and
>> advice.
> And he got that.
>> That was uncalled for:(
> That was a joke, Joyce.
Hokay Mabel:)
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Posted by tmclone on March 4, 2010, 5:59 pm
> >> Thanks for any advice.
> > Even advice to shove your head up a dead bear's arse ?
> OH come on!!! People like that chap come to uk.legal expecting help and
> advice. That was uncalled for:(
That was Rod Speed. It's a troll. Just killfile it and move along like
the rest of us have done. :)
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>>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>>
>>> Even advice to shove your head up a dead bear's arse ?
>>
>> OH come on!!! People like that chap come to uk.legal expecting help and
>> advice. That was uncalled for
> He was only trying to obtain clarification of a statement made by the
> previous poster.
> What's wrong with that?
> You're not afraid that the previous poster might actually try to follow
> that hypothetical advice, are you? Here in the UK it's very difficult to
> acquire bears, dead or otherwise, and so if the advice was taken,
> hypothetical or otherwise, its implementation would be nigh on impossible.
> No ursine mammals were harmed in the writing of this post.