Posted by Don K on July 22, 2006, 2:28 pm
We're almost there. The Crown Princess almost flipped on a calm sea.
A little bit higher and these top-heavy things will rollover like a Suzuki SUV.
Don
Posted by Bucky on July 23, 2006, 2:51 am
Don K wrote:
> We're almost there. The Crown Princess almost flipped on a calm sea.
> A little bit higher and these top-heavy things will rollover like a Suzuki SUV.
This is speculation, but the most likely reason for how it rolled was
that it was cruising at full speed when there was a rudder malfunction
that caused the rudder to turn fully to one side, which caused the ship
to turn at a high rate, thus inducing the roll. It's unlikely that it
was just sitting still and rolled over because it was top heavy.
Unlike a car, ships can lower their center of gravity by adding more
weight below road/sea level. It's all about center of gravity. A kayak
flips over rather easily, and it's barely 6 inches out of the water.
Posted by Don K on July 23, 2006, 7:21 am
> Don K wrote:
>> We're almost there. The Crown Princess almost flipped on a calm sea.
>> A little bit higher and these top-heavy things will rollover like a Suzuki
SUV.
> This is speculation, but the most likely reason for how it rolled was
> that it was cruising at full speed when there was a rudder malfunction
> that caused the rudder to turn fully to one side, which caused the ship
> to turn at a high rate, thus inducing the roll. It's unlikely that it
> was just sitting still and rolled over because it was top heavy.
The Suziki doesn't rollover when sitting still either.
It only happens during the turns.
One might argue that you shouldn't turn that sharply, but considering the
consequences, a better solution would be to design ships that were inherently
more stable.
Perhaps one that wasn't 9 stories or so tall might be better.
> Unlike a car, ships can lower their center of gravity by adding more
> weight below road/sea level. It's all about center of gravity. A kayak
> flips over rather easily, and it's barely 6 inches out of the water.
With the kayaker attached, the height of kayak is 3 feet above the water.
Once you start tilting, the center of gravity of what's above the
waterline determines whether you're gonna get wet.
Don
Posted by Dmarino217 on July 23, 2006, 1:18 pm
Don K wrote:
> > Don K wrote:
> >> We're almost there. The Crown Princess almost flipped on a calm sea.
> >> A little bit higher and these top-heavy things will rollover like a Suzuki
SUV.
> >
> > This is speculation, but the most likely reason for how it rolled was
> > that it was cruising at full speed when there was a rudder malfunction
> > that caused the rudder to turn fully to one side, which caused the ship
> > to turn at a high rate, thus inducing the roll. It's unlikely that it
> > was just sitting still and rolled over because it was top heavy.
> The Suziki doesn't rollover when sitting still either.
> It only happens during the turns.
> One might argue that you shouldn't turn that sharply, but considering the
> consequences, a better solution would be to design ships that were inherently
> more stable.
> Perhaps one that wasn't 9 stories or so tall might be better.
> > Unlike a car, ships can lower their center of gravity by adding more
> > weight below road/sea level. It's all about center of gravity. A kayak
> > flips over rather easily, and it's barely 6 inches out of the water.
> With the kayaker attached, the height of kayak is 3 feet above the water.
> Once you start tilting, the center of gravity of what's above the
> waterline determines whether you're gonna get wet.
The kayaks secondary stability is what will determine whether you are
going to get wet.
Posted by Don K on July 23, 2006, 2:29 pm
> Don K wrote:
>>
>> With the kayaker attached, the height of kayak is 3 feet above the water.
>> Once you start tilting, the center of gravity of what's above the
>> waterline determines whether you're gonna get wet.
> The kayaks secondary stability is what will determine whether you are
> going to get wet.
...Which is a function of the shifting center of gravity of what's above
the waterline and the center of buoyancy of what's below it.
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/Design/StabilityArticle.html
Don
> A little bit higher and these top-heavy things will rollover like a Suzuki SUV.