Posted by OhioGuy on September 13, 2007, 10:36 am
I was about to buy an HP e427 digital camera, when circuit city jacked the
price up $20 on me.
So, I'm still looking. Here is what I want:
1) fixed focus (no optical zoom), or with a lever that lets you get very
close to things
2) 4+ megapixels
3) 4 AA batteries, or else a 3 Amp-Hour or better
rechargeable battery built in (absolutely no AAA
batteries! - they don't last long enough.) I'd really
rather have one that used a couple of C cells.
4) Camera defaults to putting all of the pictures taken on
the same day into a folder labelled with that date
(this is VERY important to me - for a short time I
had a Kodak that just put them all in the same
communal folder, and I hated it)
5) under $100
6) good reviews online
7) no proprietary flash format
Unfortunately, I've found lots of cameras under $100, even a 10 megapixel
one, where people are saying it is fuzzier than they expected, slower than
they expected, etc. The HP e427 was one of only a few where people seem to
be MORE satisfied than they expected to be, after trying it out.
Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!
Posted by skarkada on September 13, 2007, 2:49 pm
I just checked Circuit City Web site and it is going for $80. Well
within your budget. What am I missing?
Posted by 345ddd on September 13, 2007, 5:36 pm
>> I just checked Circuit City Web site and it is going for $80. Well
>> within your budget. What am I missing?
> It was sixty something when I was originally looking, but they
> raised it to $89. Must have dropped it back $10 or so since then.
> The main issue I have with that camera is the batteries. With only
> 2 AA batteries, that is half of what I am used to. On my old camera,
> it was a 3 volt which had 4 AA's in it, for a total of 3.6 amp hours
> of power. The HP e427 would have, at most, 1.8 amp hours of battery
> power, which means you would have to swap batteries out twice as
> often as I'm used to.
Not necessarily, depends on what its power consumption is like compared with the
other one.
Posted by Rod Speed on September 13, 2007, 2:59 pm
If you are that fussy, you're mad to not just pay the extra $20.
> I was about to buy an HP e427 digital camera, when circuit city
> jacked the price up $20 on me.
> So, I'm still looking. Here is what I want:
> 1) fixed focus (no optical zoom), or with a lever that lets you get
> very close to things
> 2) 4+ megapixels
> 3) 4 AA batteries, or else a 3 Amp-Hour or better
> rechargeable battery built in (absolutely no AAA
> batteries! - they don't last long enough.) I'd really
> rather have one that used a couple of C cells.
> 4) Camera defaults to putting all of the pictures taken on
> the same day into a folder labelled with that date
> (this is VERY important to me - for a short time I
> had a Kodak that just put them all in the same
> communal folder, and I hated it)
> 5) under $100
> 6) good reviews online
> 7) no proprietary flash format
> Unfortunately, I've found lots of cameras under $100, even a 10
> megapixel one, where people are saying it is fuzzier than they
> expected, slower than they expected, etc. The HP e427 was one of
> only a few where people seem to be MORE satisfied than they expected
> to be, after trying it out.
> Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!
Posted by James on September 13, 2007, 3:04 pm
> I was about to buy an HP e427 digital camera, when circuit city jacked the
> price up $20 on me.
See the comments below
> So, I'm still looking. Here is what I want:
> 1) fixed focus (no optical zoom), or with a lever that lets you get very
Focus and zoom are NOT the same thing.
Very few cameras have fixed focus - that means the lens does not move
and every thing from X feet out is more or less in focus. Cheap
disposable film cameras use this technique. I actually have an old
digital camera that does this, but not many do. You will probably not
find one, except for the real cheap ones, or the cameras in cell
phones.
Zoom is changing the length of the lens - which impacts the size of
the image - wide angle to telephoto. Optical zoom does this by
cropping the image - which loses you quality. You can find non zoom
models, again, most have some zoom these days - if you don't want to
use it, don't.
> close to things
> 2) 4+ megapixels
Pretty standard these days.
> 3) 4 AA batteries, or else a 3 Amp-Hour or better
> rechargeable battery built in (absolutely no AAA
> batteries! - they don't last long enough.) I'd really
> rather have one that used a couple of C cells.
This varies. I have one camera (Kodak z700) which gets me 400 pics on
2 photo grade AAs. I have another which gets me 200 pics on 4 AAs. It
depends on the LCD display needs, power of the flash etc.
C cells are too big for most digital cams.
> 4) Camera defaults to putting all of the pictures taken on
> the same day into a folder labelled with that date
> (this is VERY important to me - for a short time I
> had a Kodak that just put them all in the same
> communal folder, and I hated it)
If you use the MS Windows XP camera wizard, you can create a folder
every time you download pictures. Name it whatever you want. Thats
what I do
> 5) under $100
Check out places that sell refurbs, like Tigerdirect - I bought one
there 2 years ago and its still working fine.
Or craiglist - lots of people selling good older cameras cause they
are trading up.
> 6) good reviews online
I trust Digital Photographiew review - www.dpreview.com
I don't trust the review you get on sites that sell cameras.
> 7) no proprietary flash format
Not sure what you mean by proprietary flash
> Unfortunately, I've found lots of cameras under $100, even a 10 megapixel
> one, where people are saying it is fuzzier than they expected, slower than
> they expected, etc. The HP e427 was one of only a few where people seem to
> be MORE satisfied than they expected to be, after trying it out.
More megapixels does not always mean better picture quality - its just
more pixels and that is one factor in image quality. I recently bought
a 6MP camera for a fair chunk of change ($300) that outperforms some
10 MP cameras on quality - good lens, good CCD, good firmware etc.
James
>> within your budget. What am I missing?
> It was sixty something when I was originally looking, but they
> raised it to $89. Must have dropped it back $10 or so since then.
> The main issue I have with that camera is the batteries. With only
> 2 AA batteries, that is half of what I am used to. On my old camera,
> it was a 3 volt which had 4 AA's in it, for a total of 3.6 amp hours
> of power. The HP e427 would have, at most, 1.8 amp hours of battery
> power, which means you would have to swap batteries out twice as
> often as I'm used to.