Posted by Rod Speed on July 9, 2010, 2:58 am
The Henchman wrote:
> Some of these can be costly to the people who deny themselves.
You havent listed even one example.
>> I have a relative who could put us all to shame.
>> no telephone answering device
> Missing important calls is pretty bad financially.
Hardly ever.
> What if your bank card or a relative died
In those situations they would likely call again until they got you.
> or the government needed to get a hold of you.
Their problem.
> Answering machines cost 15 dollars at walmart for GE and Memorex brands
I have one for free as part of my cordless phone and never bother to have it on.
>> no dishwasher
> This might be a bad idea for some people.
Not likely if you dont mind the wasted effort of doing it by hand.
> Dishwashers can save energy instead of washing them in the sink.
No they dont if you use the sink sensibly.
> They heat and sterilize the dishes, esp to those of us who bake a lot.
Yes, but he likely doesnt do anything like that.
> Dishwashers can be run at night when electrical rates are lower
Not all power authoritys charge like that.
> and they can be programmed so they do not heat dry but air dry.
And some like mine cant even heat dry even if you want to do that.
> There are cases when dishwashers are better than running water or using dirty
sink water.
Hardly ever.
>> no computer
> No computer means no internet.
Unlikely that he cares.
> The internet can be a cheap library
Plenty dont bother to read anything.
> and cheap entertainment source.
Free to air TV is even cheaper.
> never discount the value of learning from others.
You dont need the net to do that.
>> no gps
>> no kind of other electronic doodads - not even a cell phone
>> no garage door opener
>> no power lawnmower
>> basic cable
>> hangs clothes outside to dry
> If you have a good paying job that you need good clothes for then hanging your
clothes out to dry is not recommended
> i.e. dress shirts or dress blouses.
Thats just plain wrong. Line drying works fine for them.
And plenty of work doesnt involve them anyway.
> Not to mention those of us with 6 months of winter.
Perfectly possible even in that case.
> A water efficient washing machine is the solution for most of us.
He didnt say no washing machine.
> That way the dryer works way less.
Thats just plain wrong. That has no effect whatever on how much work the dryer
has to do.
> Gas dryers help add life to your clothes that way you buy far less clothing.
Pigs arse they do.
> Today's new front loading washing machines are very very efficient now both in
electrical and water use and they
> really rinse the water out now meaning your dryer works way way way less.
>> does own oil changes etc
> As long as he does it safely and disposes of the oil LEGALLY and in an
environmentally safe manner.
Even if he doesnt.
> I do my own oil changes as well.
>> rides a bike a lot
>> I'm sure there are other things I haven't remembered.
>> Prob. has lowest electric bill in town.
Posted by Kalmia on July 10, 2010, 3:13 pm
> Some of these can be costly to the people who deny themselves.
> > I have a relative who could put us all to shame.
> > no telephone answering device
> Missing important calls is pretty bad financially. What if your bank card
> or a relative died or the government needed to get a hold of you.
> Answering machines cost 15 dollars at walmart for GE and Memorex brands
> > no dishwasher
> This might be a bad idea for some people. Dishwashers can save energy
> instead of washing them in the sink. They heat and sterilize the dishes,
> esp to those of us who bake a lot. Dishwashers can be run at night when
> electrical rates are lower and they can be programmed so they do not heat
> dry but air dry. There are cases when dishwashers are better than running
> water or using dirty sink water.
> > no computer
> No computer means no internet. The internet can be a cheap library and
> cheap entertainment source. never discount the value of learning from
> others.
> > no gps
> > no kind of other electronic doodads - not even a cell phone
> > no garage door opener
> > no power lawnmower
> > basic cable
> > hangs clothes outside to dry
> If you have a good paying job that you need good clothes for then hanging
> your clothes out to dry is not recommended i.e. dress shirts or dress
> blouses. Not to mention those of us with 6 months of winter. A water
> efficient washing machine is the solution for most of us. That way the
> dryer works way less. Gas dryers help add life to your clothes that way you
> buy far less clothing. Today's new front loading washing machines are very
> very efficient now both in electrical and water use and they really rinse
> the water out now meaning your dryer works way way way less.
> > does own oil changes etc
> As long as he does it safely and disposes of the oil LEGALLY and in an
> environmentally safe manner. I do my own oil changes as well.
> > rides a bike a lot
> > I'm sure there are other things I haven't remembered.
> > Prob. has lowest electric bill in town.
He's retired, single, into fitness, in rarely home, likes outdoor
activities. I guess he just decided to draw the line somewhere and he
seems to get by fine.
Posted by Artys on July 11, 2010, 5:50 pm
> > Some of these can be costly to the people who deny themselves.
> > > I have a relative who could put us all to shame.
> > > no telephone answering device
> > Missing important calls is pretty bad financially. What if your bank card
> > or a relative died or the government needed to get a hold of you.
> > Answering machines cost 15 dollars at walmart for GE and Memorex brands
> > > no dishwasher
> > This might be a bad idea for some people. Dishwashers can save energy
> > instead of washing them in the sink. They heat and sterilize the dishes,
> > esp to those of us who bake a lot. Dishwashers can be run at night when
> > electrical rates are lower and they can be programmed so they do not heat
> > dry but air dry. There are cases when dishwashers are better than running
> > water or using dirty sink water.
> > > no computer
> > No computer means no internet. The internet can be a cheap library and
> > cheap entertainment source. never discount the value of learning from
> > others.
> > > no gps
> > > no kind of other electronic doodads - not even a cell phone
> > > no garage door opener
> > > no power lawnmower
> > > basic cable
> > > hangs clothes outside to dry
> > If you have a good paying job that you need good clothes for then hanging
> > your clothes out to dry is not recommended i.e. dress shirts or dress
> > blouses. Not to mention those of us with 6 months of winter. A water
> > efficient washing machine is the solution for most of us. That way the
> > dryer works way less. Gas dryers help add life to your clothes that way you
> > buy far less clothing. Today's new front loading washing machines are very
> > very efficient now both in electrical and water use and they really rinse
> > the water out now meaning your dryer works way way way less.
> > > does own oil changes etc
> > As long as he does it safely and disposes of the oil LEGALLY and in an
> > environmentally safe manner. I do my own oil changes as well.
> > > rides a bike a lot
> > > I'm sure there are other things I haven't remembered.
> > > Prob. has lowest electric bill in town.
> He's retired, single, into fitness, in rarely home, likes outdoor
> activities. I guess he just decided to draw the line somewhere and he
> seems to get by fine.
I do not have a cell phone or cable tv. However, television reception
is bad and getting worse where I live, so I am about to start watching
more
television shows on the internet. I do my own yard work, and house
work. The problem in my area is that this month, we have had four
electric power outages, so I am afraid to try to freeze very much.
Otherwise, I live a frugal life.
Posted by freeisbest on July 15, 2010, 7:10 pm
> > Times are tough, money is short and it appears this won't change
> > soon. So what can you do to cut expenses. -snip-
> I have a relative who could put us all to shame.
> no telephone answering device
> no dishwasher
> no computer
> no gps
> no kind of other electronic doodads - not even a cell phone
> no garage door opener
> no power lawnmower
> basic cable
> hangs clothes outside to dry
> does own oil changes etc
> rides a bike a lot
> I'm sure there are other things I haven't remembered.
>
> Prob. has lowest electric bill in town.
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I remember every bit of that. We were called "hippies" at the
time by folks who had big Macs, big cars and big tv's.
Today if we were forced to escape to a small trailer and could
take only one modern appliance, my family, the photo albums, and the
dishwasher would go in the station wagon.
Posted by Vandy Terre on July 14, 2010, 7:18 pm
> You know, you could save yourselves a bundle of time and money
>simply by quitting your jobs.
>>
That is great if you have some means of income while staying home. Meanwhile
most of us have a mortgage/ rent to pay.
Now if you have some legitimate means of making income while staying home,
please post it.
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