Posted by lenona321 on December 3, 2008, 2:56 pm
It's the second letter down.
What in the world is WRONG with the complainer's brain?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR2008120202943.html
Enjoy the third letter, too. (The subject is Miss Manners' biggest
peeve. You'd think people who write to her would know better by now
than to ask for help on this. Maybe only the youngest adults ARE
asking......?)
Lenona.
Posted by BigDog1 on December 3, 2008, 5:37 pm
On Dec 3, 12:56 pm, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It's the second letter down.
> What in the world is WRONG with the complainer's brain?
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR200 ...
> Enjoy the third letter, too. (The subject is Miss Manners' biggest
> peeve. You'd think people who write to her would know better by now
> than to ask for help on this. Maybe only the youngest adults ARE
> asking......?)
> Lenona.
The complainer's brain is mush. But then so are the brains of some of
the posters in this and other consumer oriented groups who piss and
moan about this very issue from time to time.
Technically, asking for an ID is a violation of the merchant account
agreement. But that's just as stupid as those who complain about it.
You can't write a check without ID. How is a credit/debit card
transaction any different? If I had my way, by law, the only
transaction you could conduct without a valid, current state issued ID
is cash.
Posted by Coffee's For Closers on December 5, 2008, 6:15 pm
In article <aaf06354-7bcb-4307-ab27-
e1b171d64a80@t2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, bigdog811@gmail.com
says...
> On Dec 3, 12:56 pm, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > It's the second letter down.
> >
> > What in the world is WRONG with the complainer's brain?
> >
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR200 ...
> >
> > Enjoy the third letter, too. (The subject is Miss Manners' biggest
> > peeve. You'd think people who write to her would know better by now
> > than to ask for help on this. Maybe only the youngest adults ARE
> > asking......?)
> The complainer's brain is mush. But then so are the brains of some of
> the posters in this and other consumer oriented groups who piss and
> moan about this very issue from time to time.
>
> Technically, asking for an ID is a violation of the merchant account
> agreement. But that's just as stupid as those who complain about it.
> You can't write a check without ID. How is a credit/debit card
> transaction any different? If I had my way, by law, the only
> transaction you could conduct without a valid, current state issued ID
> is cash.
The logic is to make a credit card transaction as easy as
possible. So that you won't be discouraged by the small extra
hassle of ID. The Visa and MasterCard associations want card
usage to be as easy as cash, or even easier.
The fact that checks/cheques require ID is considered an
advantage for credit and debit card issuers, since is makes cards
easier in comparison.
There is also the psychological factor of a consumer feeling
offended at any suggestion that s/he might be a lying, stealing
criminal. Many people feel entitled to be automatically trusted
by everyone they meet, in all situations. Although that attitude
is immature, it exists, and impacts attitudes towards business
trying to protect themselves.
That problem also arises in NON-business, interpersonal/social
interactions. There are people who will arrogantly demand that
you trust them, while in the same breath calling you a liar.
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Posted by Dennis on December 5, 2008, 9:57 pm
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:15:00 -0800, Coffee's For Closers
>There is also the psychological factor of a consumer feeling
>offended at any suggestion that s/he might be a lying, stealing
>criminal. Many people feel entitled to be automatically trusted
>by everyone they meet, in all situations. Although that attitude
>is immature, it exists, and impacts attitudes towards business
>trying to protect themselves.
Or perhaps some recognize that expecting some minimum-wage register
monkey to be able to assess credit card security (or even care) is a
complete sham perpetrated by retailers.
Read here about an hilarious experiment to see to what ridiculous
extremes you can take the whole checkout line security issue and still
pass muster:
http://www.zug.com/pranks/credit/
Dennis (evil)
--
I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin
Posted by hallerb@aol.com on December 6, 2008, 11:04 pm
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:15:00 -0800, Coffee's For Closers
> >There is also the psychological factor of a consumer feeling
> >offended at any suggestion that s/he might be a lying, stealing
> >criminal. �Many people feel entitled to be automatically trusted
> >by everyone they meet, in all situations. �Although that attitude
> >is immature, it exists, and impacts attitudes towards business
> >trying to protect themselves.
> Or perhaps some recognize that expecting some minimum-wage register
> monkey to be able to assess credit card security (or even care) is a
> complete sham perpetrated by retailers.
> Read here about an hilarious experiment to see to what ridiculous
> extremes you can take the whole checkout line security issue and still
> pass muster:
> http://www.zug.com/pranks/credit/
> Dennis (evil)
> --
> I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
> dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin
one day CC use will require a fingerprint or retinal scan to make
purchase.
its coming sooner or later, perhaps as part of a federal implanted ID
chip with everyones DNA fingerprints and other ID info,
for everyones safety you will be scaned, before flying , heck monitor
everyone with the implanted chips
> What in the world is WRONG with the complainer's brain?
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR200 ...
> Enjoy the third letter, too. (The subject is Miss Manners' biggest
> peeve. You'd think people who write to her would know better by now
> than to ask for help on this. Maybe only the youngest adults ARE
> asking......?)
> Lenona.