OK, somebody here HAS to know what these are. Instead of dividing a piece
of paper into two pieces, these scissors also snip out a narrow strip of
paper between the two major pieces. The only writing on them is 'G.A.I.
Stainless Japan'.
Any ideas?
--
Cheers,
Bev
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"Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the
bodies of the people who pissed me off."
> OK, somebody here HAS to know what these are. Instead of dividing a piece of
paper into two
> pieces, these scissors also snip out a narrow strip of paper between the two
major pieces. The
> only writing on them is 'G.A.I. Stainless Japan'.
> Any ideas?
An early attempt at "cut and paste"?
Don
Don K wrote:
>> OK, somebody here HAS to know what these are. Instead of dividing a piece of
paper into two
>> pieces, these scissors also snip out a narrow strip of paper between the two
major pieces. The
>> only writing on them is 'G.A.I. Stainless Japan'.
>>
>> Any ideas?
> An early attempt at "cut and paste"?
Oooh, don't let Ted Nelson (who can claim at least part of the credit
for inventing the idea of hypertext) hear you say that!!! I was actually
at the New Paradigms in Computing conference in 1996 when he literally
pounded on the podium and delivered a rant (from which the following is
taken) about this new thing called the Web and how its version of
hypertext was inferior to his.
From http://www.almaden.ibm.com/almaden/npuc97/1996/tnelson.htm :
And I was furious at the process at writing and how long
it took. The organizational problems and the arbitrariness
of writing. The process that fascinated me most was cut and
paste. Now, we are on delicate ground here because my blood
boils when I think of what Apple did to those two words.
For example, my grandmother told me an anecdote about
Tolstoy. Tolstoy would have his daughters write out a whole
version in long hand--he would dictate--but two copies.
One he would cut up, put all over the floor, the other of
course would be a record of that draft. Then this cut up
rearrangement, looking at it all together is what most
writers have done until the era of word processing. That
is called cut and paste. That is the true meaning of cut
and paste. The parallel consideration of a large number of
things and there most appropriate relationship. So the fact
that some bloody engineer at Xerox Parc or Apple changed
the meanings of these holy words to mean hide and plug
outrages me since it is C&B on the Macintosh, cram and bum
it. This is a wonderful thing about the so called clipboard.
This is what they call a metaphor. The clipboard on the
Macintosh is a metaphor for something or other because it
resembles an ordinary clipboard in every respect except you
can't see it. Anything that you put on it destroys the
previous contents. And so you can instantly lose what is
on it if you are absent minded like me and the phone rings.
So I say it is just like an ordinary clipboard in every
other respect except there aren't any. So the fact that
this asinine metaphor design was coupled with the redefinition
of two very very important words so that now the public now
thinks cut and paste is natural to computers. In all of my
designs from the very beginning, the sacredness of human
inspiration was the center. My typical user would come
running in, rushing to the keyboard, no time to open the
file, turn on the machine, or name anything. You start
typing, then one thought interrupts and you start typing
that other thing. And you keep backing up and returning and
reweaving and every one of these should be stored on disk
immediately whenever it is finished or put aside and printed
out immediately whenever it is finished or put aside. So
that in the event of total failure of the system, you are
completely up to date. That was 1962 and 24 years later
they brought the Macintosh with this abominable hidey-hole
and they are convincing people that this is the way writing
systems should work.
The thing about it is, I think he may have a point about the phrase
"cut and paste" having originated before computers (and about it
having a different meaning than the one Apple popularized for it).
- Logan
> Don K wrote:
> >> OK, somebody here HAS to know what these are. Instead of dividing a
piece of paper into two
> >> pieces, these scissors also snip out a narrow strip of paper between
the two major pieces. The
> >> only writing on them is 'G.A.I. Stainless Japan'.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> > An early attempt at "cut and paste"?
> Oooh, don't let Ted Nelson (who can claim at least part of the credit
> for inventing the idea of hypertext) hear you say that!!! I was actually
> at the New Paradigms in Computing conference in 1996 when he literally
> pounded on the podium and delivered a rant
<snip rant>
> The thing about it is, I think he may have a point about the phrase
> "cut and paste" having originated before computers (and about it
> having a different meaning than the one Apple popularized for it).
> - Logan
Of course "cut and paste" originated way before computers, it is a very old
way to write a ransom note.
> > Don K wrote:
> > >> OK, somebody here HAS to know what these are. Instead of dividing a
> piece of paper into two
> > >> pieces, these scissors also snip out a narrow strip of paper between
> the two major pieces. The
> > >> only writing on them is 'G.A.I. Stainless Japan'.
> > >>
> > >> Any ideas?
> >
> > > An early attempt at "cut and paste"?
> >
> > Oooh, don't let Ted Nelson (who can claim at least part of the credit
> > for inventing the idea of hypertext) hear you say that!!! I was
actually
> > at the New Paradigms in Computing conference in 1996 when he literally
> > pounded on the podium and delivered a rant
> >
> <snip rant>
> >
> > The thing about it is, I think he may have a point about the phrase
> > "cut and paste" having originated before computers (and about it
> > having a different meaning than the one Apple popularized for it).
> >
> > - Logan
> Of course "cut and paste" originated way before computers, it is a very
old
> way to write a ransom note.
Of course again. I used to work for a firm called Focus Photoset as a
despatch rider once and when work was slack I used to watch blokes doing
that. The strips of text were composed on Diatype and Electrotype machines
and stuck onto the page together with pictures etc. and the whole thing
photographed in a huge rail-type camera. Fascinating it was. Never saw them
doing any ransom notes though.
Nemo