Posted by Shawn Hirn on April 22, 2007, 1:08 pm
> srhi@comcast.net says...
>
>
> > > I saw plenty of people use the same strategies you used and they were
> > > given the boot to the door because the dealership simply didn't need to
> > > make the sale at that price, at that time. Then some of those people
> > > would get a call near the end of the month with the sales person begging
> > > them to come back in because now the dealership was willing to work with
> > > them.
>
>
> > I agree. This is why it also helps to know when a store's next sales
> > quarter is due to end. For any big ticket item, its much easier to get a
> > lower price at the end of a quarter then at the beginning.
>
>
> You mean it isn't the normal calendar quarter?
>
> Like you can't necessarily assume approaching them at the end of
> March, June, September, or December?
That would make too much sense. Unfortunately, many businesses, (not
just retailers) follow a fiscal year that's different then the calendar
year.
Posted by Daniel T. on April 22, 2007, 9:21 pm
> > That's only half of it. You also have to catch the store at the right
> > moment. If you are dealing with a salesperson who hasn't had a sale in a
> > while and the manager wants to give him a perk, if the manager is
> > worried about making the bonus quota, if the manager has been getting
> > good deals all month but his boss is upset about low volume. If the car
> > you are interested in has been sitting on the lot for a while or is
> > expected to be a slow mover... All of these have as much or more to do
> > with you getting a good deal.
>
> I agree. This is why it also helps to know when a store's next sales
> quarter is due to end. For any big ticket item, its much easier to get a
> lower price at the end of a quarter then at the beginning.
Not good enough. Lot's of people show up at the dealership at the end of
the month because they think it matters. What matters more is how good
of a deal others have been getting. If the manager can't afford to give
you a deal, he wont. If he can't afford not to give you a deal, you will
get one. If your not his financial advisor, you won't know which way the
wind is blowing.
> > BTW, a 3 hour negotiation on a Saturday afternoon is rather typical,
> > maybe even a little short. The longest I saw was about 16 hours.
>
> Sixteen hours! Holy smokes! I would have long since gone on to another
> dealer!
Going to another dealer means starting all over again. The willingness
and ability to extend a negotiation out over a long period of time like
that is a powerful tool. The entire sales force becomes invested in
making the deal happen. Yes, they hate you by the time it's over, but
what the hell, you aren't going to ever see any of them again anyway.
Posted by Lou on April 20, 2007, 8:57 pm
> > I see it all the time - furniture, spas etc -NO payment until some
> > time waay in the future. What's the catch?
> The catch is very subtle... Let's say you buy something for $1000, 12
> months "same as cash". Chances are you just paid about $100-200 too
> much for the product. (If you had offered cash, you could have bought
> it for $800-900 instead of $1000.) In other words the catch is, you
> payed the interest all up front as part of the cost of the product.
> On top of that, as others have already said, if you *don't* pay within
> the 12 month deadline, they hit you *again* with interest.
I think most of the replies posted here a way too cynical. If you're buying
an item that costs $1,000 chances are pretty good that you can dicker it
down, especially if there's another business in the area selling the same
item, or even a comparable item, for less.
You're not required to accept the merchant's terms - you can, after all, pay
cash on the barrrelhead, or go out and borrow the money from wherever you do
you're banking if you think the interest rate offered by the store is too
high.
If you do go the "same as cash" route, you are borrowing money, and the
lender is entitled to make some money on that. These deals are somewhat
unusual in that they offer an escape hatch - pay the loan off on time, and
you don't have to pay any interest.
Of course, if everyone did that, the store would go out of business, and
such deals wouldn't be offered. But how or when you choose to pay has
little if anything to do with the quality of the stuff you choose to buy.
Except maybe that people who choose to buy only what they can pay for when
they buy it may end up buying cheaper stuff.
Posted by Seerialmom on April 20, 2007, 4:30 pm
> I see it all the time - furniture, spas etc -
> NO payment until some time waay in the future.
> What's the catch?
> Has anyone ever successfully purchased anything this way?
> My neighbor swears he has done this and never a problem.
Reading the small print, the fact that the interest is likely
accruing.
I've done the "no interest/no payments for 12-18 months" before with
Sears and Penneys; but ALWAYS have the balance paid way before that.
It's like layaway except you get to have the stuff first. The secret
is to be disciplined enough to pay regularly.
Posted by Joe on April 23, 2007, 9:45 pm
>I see it all the time - furniture, spas etc -
> NO payment until some time waay in the future.
> What's the catch?
> Has anyone ever successfully purchased anything this way?
> My neighbor swears he has done this and never a problem.
Bought a living room set this way a few years ago.
Bought a washer and dryer this way recently.
All paid before the due date... No problems.
But, don't be even a second late on a single payment or... $$$ collection
goes wild!
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>
> > > I saw plenty of people use the same strategies you used and they were
> > > given the boot to the door because the dealership simply didn't need to
> > > make the sale at that price, at that time. Then some of those people
> > > would get a call near the end of the month with the sales person begging
> > > them to come back in because now the dealership was willing to work with
> > > them.
>
>
> > I agree. This is why it also helps to know when a store's next sales
> > quarter is due to end. For any big ticket item, its much easier to get a
> > lower price at the end of a quarter then at the beginning.
>
>
> You mean it isn't the normal calendar quarter?
>
> Like you can't necessarily assume approaching them at the end of
> March, June, September, or December?