Obama gets it! Oil is FINITE, regardless of current price.

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Posted by Enough Already on November 17, 2008, 11:40 am
 
It was inspiring to hear President-elect Obama say this during a 60
Minutes interview:

[quote]

(CBS) Kroft: When the price of oil was at $147 a barrel, there were a
lot of spirited and profitable discussions that were held on energy
independence. Now you've got the price of oil under $60.

Mr. Obama: Right.

Kroft: Does doing something about energy is it less important now
than…

Mr. Obama: It's more important. It may be a little harder politically,
but it's more important.

Kroft: Why?

Mr. Obama: Well, because this has been our pattern. We go from shock
to trance. You know, oil prices go up, gas prices at the pump go up,
everybody goes into a flurry of activity. And then the prices go back
down and suddenly we act like it's not important, and we start, you
know filling up our SUVs again.

And, as a consequence, we never make any progress. It’s part of the
addiction, all right. That has to be broken. Now is the time to break
it.

[end quote]


Most Republicans in recent memory would use this TEMPORARY recession-
based oil price drop to claim there's "plenty of oil" and vindicate
gratuitous V-8 engines in ego trucks. Our remaining oil (which will
rise in price sooner or later, since it's finite), should be saved for
workers who truly need big horsepower & torque. There will come a day
when "I need 300HP to tow my ego-boat" or cart around 5 fat kids won't
be a valid excuse. Living too large is the problem in the first place.
Restraint and frugality must replace mindless gluttony.

Hopefully, Obama will keep reminding the average greediot about the
inherent scarcity of a resource we've been consuming at the rate of
7.6 billion barrels a year. Coastal drilling and ANWR combined might
yield 30 billion barrels in best-case scenarios, which is about 4
years worth for the U.S. After that, the extremely costly, land-
wrecking spectre of shale is America's biggest cache. Canadian tar
sands will never fill enough of the void, and that process is already
ruining large swaths of their wilderness.

A temporary slowing of consumption doesn't render Peak Oil null, but
many people are dumb enough to believe that. Oil from all sources is
FINITE and we need a President who'll stay on that point instead of
letting the ignorant follow price whims. Nobody was born with the
right to waste energy just because they can "afford the gas" this
week. It gets physically scarcer each second no matter what price is
decided on.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/

Government efficiency, or lack thereof, mirrors the habits of the
citizenry.

Posted by mustangsally on November 17, 2008, 4:04 pm
 
Nov 2008 08:40:05 -0800 (PST)), Enough Already wrote:
|  It was inspiring to hear President-elect Obama say this during a 60
|  Minutes interview:

feh.

we have known about peak oil since the 1970s, and our government basically
ignored it and decided to pass the buck forward for future generations to
deal with.

We The People are to blame because we took our eye off the ball and have
failed to keep our government in check.

Posted by Dennis on November 18, 2008, 3:17 pm
 wrote:

Nov 2008 08:40:05 -0800 (PST)), Enough Already wrote:

Close.  We The People are to blame because we delegated planning and
responsibility to telegenic but inept politicians while we went off to
play ball.

Dennis (evil)
--
An inherent weakness of a pure democracy is that half
the voters are below average intelligence.

Posted by tin cup on November 17, 2008, 7:32 pm
 Enough Already wrote:

snipped in a fit of rage

Total manipulation by the Oil Swindlers.
Tank our economy with higher taxes and or price of fuel, so the meddlers
can try to get their mass transport for people living 50 miles from work
etc.
A reliable and economical fuel supply was one of the key ingredients of
our national wealth.
Now that that has been exported by the globalist creeps I guess it don't
matter if we spend half our income to get to work.

Posted by Michael Coburn on November 18, 2008, 10:43 am
 On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:32:35 -0500, tin cup wrote:


You seem to be very confused.  We may or may not export some fuel;
especially refined stuff.  But we IMPORT many millions of barrels a day
and it has nothing to do with  nothing other than we do not have enough
oil to run our economy as we have been doing.

The manipulation of oil prices tanked the entire world economy and not
just ours.  But the manipulation could not have occurred without the
reality of peak oil behind it.  The wall was reached at $100 a barrel.  
At $140 it was breached and the implosion sallied forth.  The recovery
will take a while and it will not be a return to the good old days.

We in the USA must find alternatives or we will not remain as the land of
plenty that we have been for the last 100 years.  I am sorry that you
feel mass transit is some sort of Liberal incursion on your Danial Boone
existence.

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