Posted by Gordon on August 12, 2009, 1:15 am
I'm not intending to spam the group.
I have no finacial intrest in this device or service.
Fry's is selling a VOIP adaptor called the OOMA.
http://www.ooma.com
It's kind of spendy at $200.00. But the basic service
is free.
Anyone here have any experience with this??
IN short, it's a VOIP adaptor that plugs directly
into your network. It doesn't require anything from
your PC (unlike Vonage, Magic Jack, or Skype which
require the PC to be running to receive phone calls).
This and the Skype Wi-fi handset are the only devices
that I have seen that do VOIP directly to the internet.
Any one know of any other devices?
Thanks
Posted by George on August 19, 2009, 4:36 pm
Gordon wrote:
> I'm not intending to spam the group.
> I have no finacial intrest in this device or service.
>
> Fry's is selling a VOIP adaptor called the OOMA.
>
> http://www.ooma.com
>
> It's kind of spendy at $200.00. But the basic service
> is free.
The service isn't free. You are paying 10 times what the hardware is
worth with the hope you can make enough calls to break even before they
go out of business.
>
> Anyone here have any experience with this??
>
> IN short, it's a VOIP adaptor that plugs directly
> into your network. It doesn't require anything from
> your PC (unlike Vonage, Magic Jack, or Skype which
> require the PC to be running to receive phone calls).
>
> This and the Skype Wi-fi handset are the only devices
> that I have seen that do VOIP directly to the internet.
> Any one know of any other devices?
>
> Thanks
There is absolutely nothing unique about that concept.
Posted by Gordon on August 19, 2009, 7:26 pm
> Gordon wrote:
>> I'm not intending to spam the group.
>> I have no finacial intrest in this device or service.
>>
>> Fry's is selling a VOIP adaptor called the OOMA.
>>
>> http://www.ooma.com
>>
>> It's kind of spendy at $200.00. But the basic service
>> is free.
>
> The service isn't free. You are paying 10 times what the hardware is
> worth with the hope you can make enough calls to break even before
> they go out of business.
>
Well let's break down the cost. THe Ooma ATA is overpriced
for sure. But, $200.00 one time cost for the hardware, and no
monthly fee. One year cost = $200.00*. But, Vonage is
running about $25.00 per month. That's $300.00 for a year of
service. Second yer of service is $0.00 for Ooma and $300.00
for Vonage.
*Of course, this does assume that Ooma stays in business. In
that case it's $200.00 for a dead weight, and go find another
VOIP provider. Is your crystal ball working better than mine?
>>
>> Anyone here have any experience with this??
>>
>> IN short, it's a VOIP adaptor that plugs directly
>> into your network. It doesn't require anything from
>> your PC (unlike Vonage, Magic Jack, or Skype which
>> require the PC to be running to receive phone calls).
>>
>> This and the Skype Wi-fi handset are the only devices
>> that I have seen that do VOIP directly to the internet.
>> Any one know of any other devices?
>>
>> Thanks
> There is absolutely nothing unique about that concept.
Well yes, it seems to be a no brainer. But the list of devices
that i am aware of is quite short. It includes the Ooma,
A couple of Skype wi-fi handsets, A linksys ATA (but not worth
anything without a service), and a Vonage ATA. Pretty
slim pickings and certianly not the "hoards" of devices
that Rod claims are out there. Although I believe that Rod
and I live in different countries. And the regulatory
environment there may be more conducive to the deployment
of "Hordes of devices".
Posted by Rod Speed on August 19, 2009, 7:45 pm
Gordon wrote
>> Gordon wrote
>>> I'm not intending to spam the group.
>>> I have no finacial intrest in this device or service.
>>> Fry's is selling a VOIP adaptor called the OOMA.
>>> http://www.ooma.com
>>> It's kind of spendy at $200.00. But the basic service is free.
>> The service isn't free. You are paying 10 times what the hardware is
>> worth with the hope you can make enough calls to break even before
>> they go out of business.
> Well let's break down the cost. THe Ooma ATA is overpriced
> for sure. But, $200.00 one time cost for the hardware, and no
> monthly fee. One year cost = $200.00*.
> But, Vonage is running about $25.00 per month.
There's plenty of VSPs that have not monthly charge at all. Neither
of mine do and they charge 8c and 10c a call untimed respectively.
Takes a hell of a lot of calls to spend anything like $200.
> That's $300.00 for a year of service. Second yer of service is $0.00 for Ooma
I dont spend anything like $20 a year at 8c a call untimed.
> and $300.00 for Vonage.
> *Of course, this does assume that Ooma stays in business. In
> that case it's $200.00 for a dead weight, and go find another
> VOIP provider. Is your crystal ball working better than mine?
Dont need one with a VSP that charges no monthly charge
and just charges for the calls made at 8c per call untimed.
>>> Anyone here have any experience with this??
>>> IN short, it's a VOIP adaptor that plugs directly
>>> into your network. It doesn't require anything from
>>> your PC (unlike Vonage, Magic Jack, or Skype which
>>> require the PC to be running to receive phone calls).
>>> This and the Skype Wi-fi handset are the only devices
>>> that I have seen that do VOIP directly to the internet.
>>> Any one know of any other devices?
>>> Thanks
>> There is absolutely nothing unique about that concept.
> Well yes, it seems to be a no brainer. But the
> list of devices that i am aware of is quite short.
Then you need to get out more.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1311&_nkw=voip+adapter&_sacat=See-All-Categories
That produces 430 hits.
> It includes the Ooma, A couple of Skype wi-fi handsets,
> A linksys ATA (but not worth anything without a service),
There's hordes of VSPs that provide a service.
> and a Vonage ATA. Pretty slim pickings
Only if you're that pig ignorant.
http://desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=voip&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=voip&_osacat=0&_rdc=1
produces 13K hits.
> and certianly not the "hoards" of devices that Rod claims are out there.
Have fun explaining
http://desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=voip&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=voip&_osacat=0&_rdc=1
> Although I believe that Rod and I live in different countries.
Yes, but I was talking about what is available in the US.
> And the regulatory environment there may be more
> conducive to the deployment of "Hordes of devices".
Guess again.
Posted by Rod Speed on August 19, 2009, 7:48 pm
Rod Speed wrote:
> Gordon wrote
>>> Gordon wrote
>>>> I'm not intending to spam the group.
>>>> I have no finacial intrest in this device or service.
>>>> Fry's is selling a VOIP adaptor called the OOMA.
>>>> http://www.ooma.com
>>>> It's kind of spendy at $200.00. But the basic service is free.
>>> The service isn't free. You are paying 10 times what the hardware is
>>> worth with the hope you can make enough calls to break even before
>>> they go out of business.
>> Well let's break down the cost. THe Ooma ATA is overpriced
>> for sure. But, $200.00 one time cost for the hardware, and no
>> monthly fee. One year cost = $200.00*.
>> But, Vonage is running about $25.00 per month.
> There's plenty of VSPs that have not monthly charge at all. Neither
> of mine do and they charge 8c and 10c a call untimed respectively.
> Takes a hell of a lot of calls to spend anything like $200.
>> That's $300.00 for a year of service. Second yer of service is
>> $0.00 for Ooma
> I dont spend anything like $20 a year at 8c a call untimed.
>> and $300.00 for Vonage.
>> *Of course, this does assume that Ooma stays in business. In
>> that case it's $200.00 for a dead weight, and go find another
>> VOIP provider. Is your crystal ball working better than mine?
> Dont need one with a VSP that charges no monthly charge
> and just charges for the calls made at 8c per call untimed.
>>>> Anyone here have any experience with this??
>>>> IN short, it's a VOIP adaptor that plugs directly
>>>> into your network. It doesn't require anything from
>>>> your PC (unlike Vonage, Magic Jack, or Skype which
>>>> require the PC to be running to receive phone calls).
>>>> This and the Skype Wi-fi handset are the only devices
>>>> that I have seen that do VOIP directly to the internet.
>>>> Any one know of any other devices?
>>>> Thanks
>>> There is absolutely nothing unique about that concept.
>> Well yes, it seems to be a no brainer. But the
>> list of devices that i am aware of is quite short.
> Then you need to get out more.
>
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1311&_nkw=voip+adapter&_sacat=See-All-Categories
> That produces 430 hits.
>> It includes the Ooma, A couple of Skype wi-fi handsets,
>> A linksys ATA (but not worth anything without a service),
> There's hordes of VSPs that provide a service.
>> and a Vonage ATA. Pretty slim pickings
> Only if you're that pig ignorant.
>
http://desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=voip&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=voip&_osacat=0&_rdc=1
> produces 13K hits.
>> and certianly not the "hoards" of devices that Rod claims are out
>> there.
> Have fun explaining
>
http://desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=voip&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=voip&_osacat=0&_rdc=1
>> Although I believe that Rod and I live in different countries.
> Yes, but I was talking about what is available in the US.
>> And the regulatory environment there may be more
>> conducive to the deployment of "Hordes of devices".
> Guess again.
http://www.google.com/products?q=voip&aq=f
produces 75K hits. Hordes in anyone's language, in your country too.
> I have no finacial intrest in this device or service.
>
> Fry's is selling a VOIP adaptor called the OOMA.
>
> http://www.ooma.com
>
> It's kind of spendy at $200.00. But the basic service
> is free.