Re: Ann Coulter: No free health care for illegals? You want to bet?

 


Who will cook the burghers at Five Guys?

 

Jean Smith wrote

The legal immigrants.

 


It is a very accurate definition.

The problem is that the Left's definition is incorrect
and purposely so broad, that any mention of culture
automatically results with the race card being played
in an attempt to control the language of the discussion
and thus the discussion itself.

It is you who refuses to differentiate between culture
and genetics.


Which was still racism, as while (in theory) everything
was supposed to be equal, it was still based on the
premise that different ethnic groups should not mix
together due to their genetic differences.

Neither of us would have a problem using the same
drinking fountain as a Black, Mexican, Eskimo, etc.
but that doesn't change the fact that all cultures have
recognizable differences and some of these traits/
practices/behaviors are good and some are bad.

Example; In the U.S. 55% of new mothers of Hispanic
heritage are not high school grads, compared to 28%
of Blacks and 13% of Whites.

This has nothing to do with genetics or "race", it's all
about culture and it's not a cultural trait that any nation
would want to import, nor is it racist to point this out.


How many Mexican neurosurgeons do you think are
illegally crossing the border?  Exactly.

You can use whatever term you like but labeling these
people "dregs" is not racism, as there are dregs in all
societies and their condition has nothing to do with
genetics.

In fact there are plenty of Euro-American dregs who
I wish we could dump into some other nation's lap...


And I would agree but that doesn't mean that they should
be allowed (and even encouraged) to illegally enter the
U.S. and become a burden for American tax payers.

Mexico needs to get its act together and take care of its
own people and not pawn them off on the U.S. and this
will never happen as long as the "relief valve" of an
uncontrolled border exists.


Again, I don't believe in "race" and while I feel sorry for their
situation, it's not my responsibility nor the responsibility of
the American people to pick up the check.


It is not, but regardless of what term is used, they're still the
poorest, most uneducated and least employable segment
of Mexican society (and thus the least desirable immigrants)
and they are being dumped into the U.S. because the Mexican
government refuses to deal with the situation.


Mexicans are not facing starvation nor are they facing wide
spread political oppression or a civil war, the vast majority
of illegal immigrants come to the U.S. simply because they
can _make more money here_ and we maintain a very
generous welfare system.


Of course I would but at the same time, Mexico and every
other nation on the planet has every right to control its border,
enforce its immigration laws and to expect those immigrants
to assimilate and become productive members of their adoptive
nation.

In fact the Mexican government enforces very strict immigration
laws for their _own_ nation, far stronger then the U.S., details of
which can be found on-line.

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.


I agree.


I also agree with this, but scouring the country to find illegals
who are employed by American companies will take forever
and cost a bazillion dollars and we have neither the man-power
nor money to do this.

But even if we did, leaving the border wide open while we did
this would only result in illegals continuing to cross over and
American companies continuing to hire them, as soon as the
handful of available immigration officers walked off company
property.


I agree with this too but you're putting the cart before the horse.

Common sense dictates that if your boat is sinking, your first
priority is to plug up the hole that is letting all the water in, not
just bail water faster.

Once the border is locked down (via the U.S. military patrolling
the border, as is their job) we can go after the U.S. companies
who hire illegals.