Posted by Gordon on March 29, 2010, 8:37 pm
> For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of
> all. I had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search
> engines - top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host
> with a new URL unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3
> years of webhosting and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able
> to upload my site to the new host without the typical professional fee
> of $250 to do so, but it took alot of my time. In addition, I'll have
> to toss and replace about $50 worth of business cards with my old URL
> web address on them, replace other printed materials with the old URL,
> change many documents, and inform many contacts. I will inevitably
> lose business because the old URL, now in many website links and
> hard-copy publications, has become useless.
Who's the bigger fool here? As a business, you should have your own
registered domain name. Your e-mail should be under that domain
name, your web site should be under that domain name. You web site
should be hosted separately from your ISP for just this reason.
I have been through several ISP's in the last 10 years and have
not had to update or replace anything. I have not had to notify anyone
of a new e-mail address. It's all portable. The only change
required is to change a few settings over at Godaddy.com and
no-one even knows that I changed ISP's.
It also makes it easy to vote with my wallet.
Posted by Harold Burton on March 29, 2010, 9:59 pm
> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
Yet another whiner who doesn't pay attention to his contracts.
snicker.
Posted by Whistleblower on March 30, 2010, 3:37 pm
>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
> Yet another whiner who doesn't pay attention to his contracts.
> snicker.
Yet another snickering troll in need of psychiatric treatment -
HOW TO DEFEAT THE TROLLS
An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord
on the Internet. He or she slanders others and seeks to cause
conflicts and upset people. Trolls are malicious, antisocial,
and often mentally ill. They crave attention, and care not
whether it is positive or negative. The Internet is a
convenient venue for their bizarre, misanthropic games - a
means to abuse others without fear of retaliation. Trolls are
cowards - lacking the courage to be overtly hostile towards
people, they hide behind their computers and the anonymity of
the Internet. The troll is a less intelligent version of the
malicious hacker or virus writer.
Trolls are impervious to meaningful dialogue. You CANNOT reason
with them and you CANNOT cause them to feel shame or
compassion. Trolls do not feel bound by rules of courtesy or
social responsibility. They are simply not playing with a full
deck. It is futile to try to "cure" a troll of his obsession.
Trolls are irrational and not accessible through any sane approach.
Established posters may leave a newsgroup/message board because
of troll-created conflicts, and lurkers (readers that do not
post) may not want to expose themselves to abuse and therefore
never speak up. Thus they unwisely allow the troll to violate
their rights of free speech and expression. The Internet is a
vital resource - and probably the last stand for free speech.
Being antisocial, trolls hate this and try to subvert it.
When you try to reason with a troll, he wins. When you curse at
a troll, he wins. If he succeeds in angering you, he's succeeded.
THE ONLY THING THE TROLL CAN'T HANDLE IS BEING IGNORED -
having NO EFFECT on his intended targets!
So the best way to deal with trolls is to IGNORE THEM and
occasionally (and ONLY occasionally) remind others not to
respond to them either.
Hard to ignore? You can set up your computer to AUTOMATICALLY
ignore the troll by using your KILLFILE. Just go to the
offensive message, and bring your pointer to the "MESSAGE" tab
near the top of your screen. Click, and a menu opens. Go to and
click on "BLOCK SENDER." You will no longer see any of the
sender's posts from that account. This is called "plonking" the troll.
Ignored, these children will have to find another game to play.
Posted by tmclone on March 30, 2010, 4:01 pm
> >> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
> > Yet another whiner who doesn't pay attention to his contracts.
> > snicker.
> Yet another snickering troll in need of psychiatric treatment -
Huh? The OP is the one who comes off like a troll. Ok, PLONK!
Posted by George on March 31, 2010, 9:31 am
On 3/30/2010 3:37 PM, Whistleblower wrote:
>>
>>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!
>>
>>
>> Yet another whiner who doesn't pay attention to his contracts.
>>
>> snicker.
> Yet another snickering troll in need of psychiatric treatment -
Sorry, you posted your tale in numerous groups. It is unfortunate but
you made the decision to use personal webspace and ISP email for your
business. You now found one of the main reasons why it is recommended
never to do that. If the ISP changes their business model or even goes
out of business you are toast.
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> all. I had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search
> engines - top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host
> with a new URL unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3
> years of webhosting and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able
> to upload my site to the new host without the typical professional fee
> of $250 to do so, but it took alot of my time. In addition, I'll have
> to toss and replace about $50 worth of business cards with my old URL
> web address on them, replace other printed materials with the old URL,
> change many documents, and inform many contacts. I will inevitably
> lose business because the old URL, now in many website links and
> hard-copy publications, has become useless.