Posted by Mike Hunter on February 3, 2010, 11:53 am
The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in
both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST therefore have the
freedom of political speech guaranteed in the Constitution to every
American.
IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must amend the
Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer BE "persons," who
can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing
that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed by the Congress?
>>krw wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>
>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to get a
>>>> birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>
>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>
>>Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
> ...and?
>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote, then
>>>> let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>
>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
>>
Posted by Rod Speed on February 3, 2010, 1:10 pm
Mike Hunter wrote:
> The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in both
criminal and civil court, has now ruled
> they MUST therefore have the freedom of political speech guaranteed in the
Constitution to every American.
There is no therefore, the most recent ruling has nothing to do with that
earlier one.
It is in fact based on the NO LAW bit of the First.
> IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must
> amend the Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer
> BE "persons," who can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
That is wrong too. There is for example no reason why
the constitution could not be explicitly amended to allow
corps to be sued in both criminal and civil courts.
> Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing that
amendment to ever be introduced let
> alone be passed by the Congress?
It isnt necessarily up to the Senate.
>>
>>> krw wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>>
>>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to
>>>>> get a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>>
>>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>>
>>> Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>>
>> ...and?
>>
>>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote,
>>>>> then let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>>
>>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil
>>>> court.
Posted by Mike Hunter on February 3, 2010, 1:34 pm
You are entitled to you own opinion, not matter how convoluted it may be
;)
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in
>> both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST therefore have the
>> freedom of political speech guaranteed in the Constitution to every
>> American.
> There is no therefore, the most recent ruling has nothing to do with that
> earlier one.
> It is in fact based on the NO LAW bit of the First.
>> IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must
>> amend the Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer
>> BE "persons," who can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
> That is wrong too. There is for example no reason why
> the constitution could not be explicitly amended to allow
> corps to be sued in both criminal and civil courts.
>> Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing
>> that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed by the Congress?
> It isnt necessarily up to the Senate.
>>>
>>>> krw wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>>>
>>>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to
>>>>>> get a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>>>
>>>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>>>
>>>> Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>>>
>>> ...and?
>>>
>>>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote,
>>>>>> then let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil
>>>>> court.
>
Posted by Rod Speed on February 3, 2010, 3:30 pm
Mike Hunter wrote
> You are entitled to you own opinion,
Taint my opinion, its the supremes' opinion.
> not matter how convoluted it may be ;)
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be
>>> sued in both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST
>>> therefore have the freedom of political speech guaranteed in the
>>> Constitution to every American.
>>
>> There is no therefore, the most recent ruling has nothing to do with
>> that earlier one.
>>
>> It is in fact based on the NO LAW bit of the First.
>>
>>> IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must
>>> amend the Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer
>>> BE "persons," who can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
>>
>> That is wrong too. There is for example no reason why
>> the constitution could not be explicitly amended to allow
>> corps to be sued in both criminal and civil courts.
>>
>>> Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever
>>> allowing that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed
>>> by the Congress?
>>
>> It isnt necessarily up to the Senate.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>> krw wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to
>>>>>>> get a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>>>>
>>>>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>>>>
>>>>> Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>>>>
>>>> ...and?
>>>>
>>>>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote,
>>>>>>> then let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because
>>>>>>> a corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil
>>>>>> court.
Posted by krw on February 3, 2010, 6:39 pm
wrote:
>The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in
>both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST therefore have the
>freedom of political speech guaranteed in the Constitution to every
>American.
>IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must amend the
>Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer BE "persons," who
>can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
Not to mention being liable for taxes.
>Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing
>that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed by the Congress?
Can you imagine the states ratifying such?
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>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>
>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to get a
>>>> birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>
>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>
>>Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
> ...and?
>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote, then
>>>> let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>
>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
>>