Posted by Jim10293 on November 17, 2008, 9:54 am
wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:16:09 -0800, TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting that the poster made no mention of executives with seven
>>>>>> figure salaries who made bad decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor did they bring up civil servants that earn that much with overtime.
>>>>> Seems they are only pissed at union boys.
>>>>
>>>> Nor sports. music and movie stars who are make an an obscene paycheck
>>>> for
>>>> providing little value to society.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep and its funny how that phenomenon works too, they suddenly KNOW they
>>> are the expert on everything. Because we pay them enormous amounts of
>>> money to amuse us , {think court jester here}they are the smartest
>>> creatures on earth and tell us so anytime we "forget".
>>>
>>> Kitty
>>
>> When Ted Williams retired from baseball, so did I. I have not, and will
>> not, pay a cent to see nine millionaires frolic in the field. But on the
>> other hand, I was thinking about paying five thousand dollars to see
>> Luciano
>> Pavarotti (and the other two tenors) in Houston, Texas. Fortunately, they
>> cancelled the concert. Not enough fools like me. So everyone has their
>> weakness.
>Pavarotti was a once in a lifetime tenor.
>Sadly, it is too late to hear him live now.
>--
Daughter had tickets for several years to hear him here in DC. She
regularly goes to such fare and is really into it. She never did see
him and traded the tickets for something else.
I am in awe at such talent but learned early that attending opera,
ballet, and such as his programs got me some great sleep but in very
uncomfortable chairs at expensive prices.
DC is a great place for entertainment as there is always something. We
watch the Kennedy Center's Millenium Stage schedule close as their
performances are free. First come first seated and there is a
different performance every day! One of the little unknowns things I
never knew until daughter began taking me several years ago to things
she knew I'd like.
http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/schedule.html
Posted by Evelyn on November 17, 2008, 9:59 am
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:16:09 -0800, TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting that the poster made no mention of executives with seven
>>>>>>> figure salaries who made bad decisions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor did they bring up civil servants that earn that much with
>>>>>> overtime.
>>>>>> Seems they are only pissed at union boys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor sports. music and movie stars who are make an an obscene paycheck
>>>>> for
>>>>> providing little value to society.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep and its funny how that phenomenon works too, they suddenly KNOW
>>>> they
>>>> are the expert on everything. Because we pay them enormous amounts of
>>>> money to amuse us , {think court jester here}they are the smartest
>>>> creatures on earth and tell us so anytime we "forget".
>>>>
>>>> Kitty
>>>
>>> When Ted Williams retired from baseball, so did I. I have not, and will
>>> not, pay a cent to see nine millionaires frolic in the field. But on
>>> the
>>> other hand, I was thinking about paying five thousand dollars to see
>>> Luciano
>>> Pavarotti (and the other two tenors) in Houston, Texas. Fortunately,
>>> they
>>> cancelled the concert. Not enough fools like me. So everyone has their
>>> weakness.
>>
>>
>>Pavarotti was a once in a lifetime tenor.
>>Sadly, it is too late to hear him live now.
>>
>>--
> Daughter had tickets for several years to hear him here in DC. She
> regularly goes to such fare and is really into it. She never did see
> him and traded the tickets for something else.
> I am in awe at such talent but learned early that attending opera,
> ballet, and such as his programs got me some great sleep but in very
> uncomfortable chairs at expensive prices.
> DC is a great place for entertainment as there is always something. We
> watch the Kennedy Center's Millenium Stage schedule close as their
> performances are free. First come first seated and there is a
> different performance every day! One of the little unknowns things I
> never knew until daughter began taking me several years ago to things
> she knew I'd like.
> http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/schedule.html
Wow...."FREE performances every day"
That's great. Since my area has great proximity to NYCity, we get a lot of
top name entertainment, but it is seldom free. Although we do get some
good classical concerts for free at some of the local churches.
--
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(Our) enemies are not man. They are intolerance, fanaticism, dictatorship,
cupidity, hatred and discrimination, which lie within the heart of man." --
Thich Nhat Hanh
Posted by Jim10293 on November 17, 2008, 10:43 am
wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:16:09 -0800, TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interesting that the poster made no mention of executives with seven
>>>>>>>> figure salaries who made bad decisions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nor did they bring up civil servants that earn that much with
>>>>>>> overtime.
>>>>>>> Seems they are only pissed at union boys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor sports. music and movie stars who are make an an obscene paycheck
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> providing little value to society.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep and its funny how that phenomenon works too, they suddenly KNOW
>>>>> they
>>>>> are the expert on everything. Because we pay them enormous amounts of
>>>>> money to amuse us , {think court jester here}they are the smartest
>>>>> creatures on earth and tell us so anytime we "forget".
>>>>>
>>>>> Kitty
>>>>
>>>> When Ted Williams retired from baseball, so did I. I have not, and will
>>>> not, pay a cent to see nine millionaires frolic in the field. But on
>>>> the
>>>> other hand, I was thinking about paying five thousand dollars to see
>>>> Luciano
>>>> Pavarotti (and the other two tenors) in Houston, Texas. Fortunately,
>>>> they
>>>> cancelled the concert. Not enough fools like me. So everyone has their
>>>> weakness.
>>>
>>>
>>>Pavarotti was a once in a lifetime tenor.
>>>Sadly, it is too late to hear him live now.
>>>
>>>--
>>
>> Daughter had tickets for several years to hear him here in DC. She
>> regularly goes to such fare and is really into it. She never did see
>> him and traded the tickets for something else.
>>
>> I am in awe at such talent but learned early that attending opera,
>> ballet, and such as his programs got me some great sleep but in very
>> uncomfortable chairs at expensive prices.
>>
>> DC is a great place for entertainment as there is always something. We
>> watch the Kennedy Center's Millenium Stage schedule close as their
>> performances are free. First come first seated and there is a
>> different performance every day! One of the little unknowns things I
>> never knew until daughter began taking me several years ago to things
>> she knew I'd like.
>>
>> http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/schedule.html
>Wow...."FREE performances every day"
>That's great. Since my area has great proximity to NYCity, we get a lot of
>top name entertainment, but it is seldom free. Although we do get some
>good classical concerts for free at some of the local churches.
>--
I trimmed out some of the crosspostings in the original but felt
leaving it for the frugal living and vets may work for some folks who
may come this way.
When guests come from out of town, we always try to see what is
playing there as a diversion since most of the time there will be
something good that they or us would probably have not included in our
regular fare. But, it is always a good program. It is a great
evening going to dinner in the Kennedy Center area and then see a free
show. None of guests have complained.
Daughter volunteers at Smithsonian, PBS, and some other groups so
comes up with all kinds of intersting things to do.
Posted by Truly Stunned on November 21, 2008, 11:37 pm
> Furthermore -
>
> UAW employees also receive the following extraordinary provisions:
>
> * 30-and-Out contracts. UAW employees work under a 30-and-Out
> contract that allows them to retire with generous pension benefits
> after 30 years on the job, irrespective of age.
> * Seven weeks' vacation. A Chrysler worker with 15 years' tenure was
> entitled to 34.5 paid holidays and vacation days in 2006--seven
> weeks in paid time off. This is three weeks more paid vacation
> than the average private sector
> worker with similar tenure.
> * Paid not to work. Under UAW contracts, workers whom the automakers
> let go when plants close are not laid off. Instead, after
> exhausting regular unemployment payments from the automakers and
> the government, they are transferred to a JOBS bank where they are
> paid nearly full wages to not work.
Hmm. Did the unions negotiate in a vacuum? What weapon was held to the
head of the manufacturers to force them to agree to these terms? Perhaps
the Big Three were not interested in the long-term effects of their
negotiations because they knew if the day came when their companies were
truly threatened, they could simply declare bankruptcy (if the
government refused to fund their shortsightedness) and walk away.
Meanwhile there was all that money to be made crushing electric vehicles.
Posted by Rod Speed on November 22, 2008, 12:05 am
>> Furthermore -
>>
>> UAW employees also receive the following extraordinary provisions:
>>
>> * 30-and-Out contracts. UAW employees work under a 30-and-Out
>> contract that allows them to retire with generous pension
>> benefits after 30 years on the job, irrespective of age.
>> * Seven weeks' vacation. A Chrysler worker with 15 years' tenure
>> was entitled to 34.5 paid holidays and vacation days in
>> 2006--seven weeks in paid time off. This is three weeks more
>> paid vacation
>> than the average private sector
>> worker with similar tenure.
>> * Paid not to work. Under UAW contracts, workers whom the
>> automakers let go when plants close are not laid off. Instead,
>> after exhausting regular unemployment payments from the
>> automakers and the government, they are transferred to a JOBS
>> bank where they are paid nearly full wages to not work.
> Hmm. Did the unions negotiate in a vacuum?
> What weapon was held to the head of the manufacturers to force them to agree
to these terms?
The weapon of not getting any cars made to sell.
> Perhaps the Big Three were not interested in the long-term effects
> of their negotiations because they knew if the day came when their
> companies were truly threatened, they could simply declare bankruptcy
> (if the government refused to fund their shortsightedness) and walk away.
Unlikely.
> Meanwhile there was all that money to be made crushing electric vehicles.
Mindless silly stuff.
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>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:16:09 -0800, TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting that the poster made no mention of executives with seven
>>>>>> figure salaries who made bad decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor did they bring up civil servants that earn that much with overtime.
>>>>> Seems they are only pissed at union boys.
>>>>
>>>> Nor sports. music and movie stars who are make an an obscene paycheck
>>>> for
>>>> providing little value to society.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep and its funny how that phenomenon works too, they suddenly KNOW they
>>> are the expert on everything. Because we pay them enormous amounts of
>>> money to amuse us , {think court jester here}they are the smartest
>>> creatures on earth and tell us so anytime we "forget".
>>>
>>> Kitty
>>
>> When Ted Williams retired from baseball, so did I. I have not, and will
>> not, pay a cent to see nine millionaires frolic in the field. But on the
>> other hand, I was thinking about paying five thousand dollars to see
>> Luciano
>> Pavarotti (and the other two tenors) in Houston, Texas. Fortunately, they
>> cancelled the concert. Not enough fools like me. So everyone has their
>> weakness.
>Pavarotti was a once in a lifetime tenor.
>Sadly, it is too late to hear him live now.
>--