Posted by Rod Speed on November 22, 2009, 12:57 pm
Bill wrote:
> I see people who can't pay their rent/mortgage, electric bill, buy enough
food, etc. And they typically will go out
> and buy all sorts of Christmas gifts....
> Why?
Because they are stupid, stupid.
> For me it is the thought which counts. I am perfectly happy with a hand made
card which says Merry Christmas!
Why bother with that ? Get a clue and do an electronic one.
> Or perhaps a card which says "Merry Christmas - We are broke this year and
can't afford to buy you any gifts, but
> wishing you and your family the best. I know you need to save money too, so
please don't buy us anything!"
I havent bothered with presents in 40+ years.
> What a good present to give a friend!
> Actually now that I think about it, my brother is having money
> troubles. I have pretty much everything I need and every year my
> brother and his family gives me things I don't want and don't need.
Thats why I gave up on them more than half a century ago.
> He would appreciate it if I let him off the hook and offered him a frugal
Christmas!
Presumably stupidity must be hereditary if he hasnt worked it out for himself
already.
> As for small children too young to understand anything but "me", I can't think
of any way around not buying them
> something.
Retrospective abortions are very effective.
> They are quite happy with simple inexpensive toys like a slinky or little $1
toy cars. There are inexpensive dolls and
> the like for girls.
You sexist animal.
> Many times I have seen children place the expensive toys aside and play with
the cheap simple things!
Posted by Mark Anderson on November 23, 2009, 5:40 am
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:18:21 -0800, Bill wrote:
> I see people who can't pay their rent/mortgage, electric bill, buy
> enough food, etc. And they typically will go out and buy all sorts of
> Christmas gifts....
This is why I like Thanksgiving far better than Christmas. Christmas is
all about the stuff. Thanksgiving is all about eating and family. My
family long ago agreed to a mutual understanding that there be no gifts.
There is the occasional grab bag which can be nice but no individual
giving (for the adults, kids are different). I really don't want
anything and if I did, I'm perfectly capable of going to a store and
buying it. I don't need someone to give it to me and I hated going the
store trying to figure out what someone else needs. Christmas is a lot
nicer now watching everyone else in the frantic buying mode, waiting in
line at the store and fighting traffic. I just sit back and watch
football without a care in the world. When Christmas comes, it's like
Thanksgiving, no pressure, no worrying if you got such and such the
"right" thing, just eat, drink, and be merry for the days are getting
longer.
Posted by Gregory on November 23, 2009, 5:58 am
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:40:18 -0600, Mark Anderson
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:18:21 -0800, Bill wrote:
>This is why I like Thanksgiving far better than Christmas. Christmas is
>all about the stuff.
Christmas is not "all about the stuff" unless you make it that way. It
is all about being with others and giving thanks for the greatest gift
that mankind has ever been given.
Gregory
Posted by Mark Anderson on November 23, 2009, 4:00 pm
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:58:06 -0500, Gregory wrote:
> Christmas is not "all about the stuff" unless you make it that way. It
> is all about being with others and giving thanks for the greatest gift
> that mankind has ever been given.
Maybe for you. Watch the Black Friday mobs this Friday and you'll see
that in general, society doesn't agree with you. They just want stuff.
Posted by Gregory on November 23, 2009, 4:29 pm
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:00:43 -0600, Mark Anderson
>On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:58:06 -0500, Gregory wrote:
>> Christmas is not "all about the stuff" unless you make it that way. It
>> is all about being with others and giving thanks for the greatest gift
>> that mankind has ever been given.
>Maybe for you. Watch the Black Friday mobs this Friday and you'll see
>that in general, society doesn't agree with you. They just want stuff.
You still have a choice for how you celebrate Christmas. Among the
greatest weaknesses in our society is the false belief that you HAVE
to be a lemming.
Greg
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