Posted by Shawn Hirn on August 26, 2007, 6:28 am
> George Hotz, 17, has written an application hack to unlock the iPhone
> and use with any other carrier around the world.
> http://cometo.know.googlepages.com/17_year_old_hacker_unlocks_iphones_secre
Not true. The iPhone can't be used with "any other carrier around the
world" because its only compatible with certain carriers. For example,
the only carrier besides AT&T that's compatible with the iPhone in the
USA is T-Mobile, and T-Mobile has much worst service than AT&T, plus you
lose some functionality on the iPhone. This hack really only benefits
people who want to use the iPhone outside the United States.
Posted by Gene S. Berkowitz on August 26, 2007, 9:58 pm
srhi@comcast.net says...
>
> > George Hotz, 17, has written an application hack to unlock the iPhone
> > and use with any other carrier around the world.
> > http://cometo.know.googlepages.com/17_year_old_hacker_unlocks_iphones_secre
>
> Not true. The iPhone can't be used with "any other carrier around the
> world" because its only compatible with certain carriers. For example,
> the only carrier besides AT&T that's compatible with the iPhone in the
> USA is T-Mobile, and T-Mobile has much worst service than AT&T, plus you
> lose some functionality on the iPhone. This hack really only benefits
> people who want to use the iPhone outside the United States.
Okay, why don't we simply rephrase that as "any other carrier outside
the United States of America":
Cell Phone Subscribers as of Q1 2007 from wirelessntelligence.com:
World 2,831,345,390
GSM 2,278,095,380 80.5%
3GSM (WCDMA) 114,664,827 4.0%
CDMA 18,138,942 0.6%
CDMA 1X 289,963,166 10.2%
CDMA 1X EV-DO 57,376,347 2.0%
TDMA 16,235,932 0.6%
PDC 27,857,370 1.0%
iDEN 26,494,743 0.9%
Analog 2,518,683 0.1%
So, 80% of the cell phone subscribers worldwide could benefit from the
iPhone hack. And of that 80.5% using GSM, 94 Million of them are in the
USA or Canada.
--Gene
Posted by John Weiss on August 27, 2007, 12:42 am
> Okay, why don't we simply rephrase that as "any other carrier outside
> the United States of America":
Because that's not true, either.
Why not rephrase it as "any other GSM carrier with compatible SIM card"?
Posted by Gene S. Berkowitz on August 27, 2007, 11:57 pm
<jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> says...
> >
> > Okay, why don't we simply rephrase that as "any other carrier outside
> > the United States of America":
>
> Because that's not true, either.
>
> Why not rephrase it as "any other GSM carrier with compatible SIM card"?
Name a GSM carrier (outside the USA) with an incompatible SIM card.
Now take a guess how long it would take for said carrier to become
compatible (remember, they're in the business of selling airtime, not
phones).
How many carriers would dump a subscriber for using an iPhone?
Has T-Mobile dumped George Holz for using his iPhone on their network?
I'm guessing that as long as he pays his bill, they'll be happy to have
him.
--Gene
Posted by Shawn Hirn on August 28, 2007, 6:09 am
> <jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet> says...
> > >
> > > Okay, why don't we simply rephrase that as "any other carrier outside
> > > the United States of America":
> >
> > Because that's not true, either.
> >
> > Why not rephrase it as "any other GSM carrier with compatible SIM card"?
>
> Name a GSM carrier (outside the USA) with an incompatible SIM card.
> Now take a guess how long it would take for said carrier to become
> compatible (remember, they're in the business of selling airtime, not
> phones).
>
> How many carriers would dump a subscriber for using an iPhone?
>
> Has T-Mobile dumped George Holz for using his iPhone on their network?
> I'm guessing that as long as he pays his bill, they'll be happy to have
> him.
I can see the benefit of doing this outside the states, but hacking an
iPhone to work with T-Mobile in the USA makes no sense unless you live
in an area where the reception quality of AT&T is worse than T-Mobile or
if T-Mobile is significantly cheaper.
By going with T-Mobile, you lose functionality that helps make the
iPhone unique such as its visual voice mail, so why not just stick with
AT&T and get the iPhone's full functionality?
> and use with any other carrier around the world.
> http://cometo.know.googlepages.com/17_year_old_hacker_unlocks_iphones_secre