Re: Obesity emerges as new risk factor for severe flu

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Posted by Doug Freyburger on July 13, 2009, 10:37 am
 

On the Atkins web site there was an example of someone on
a confirmed low carb deit who still gained new fat stores over
time.  When a careful review of all intake was done it turned
out the person was eating a stick of butter flavored with
cinnamon each night as a snack.  That's 100 additional grams
of fat in a plan that already had around 100 without the snack.
So it's possible to gain when really eating low carb but it takes
a rediculous amount of extra fat calories.

On the other hand it's not all that hard to eat enough extra fat
to not lose - Calories matter and the Atkins book does not say
to use the appetite suppression of low carb to taper down
portion sizes.  I think it's implicit in the plan but many folks
want chapter and verse quoted from the book and it doesn't
appear in the book.


For many high carb foods are addictive because of the insulin
swings.  For many that doesn't happen and we get a constant
flow of folks who use the weak minded logic that since eating
high carb foods for them does not trigger endless hunger and
cravings therefore it doesn't happen with anyone.


When discussing what works it's not about economics.  Do
not confuse economic need with what actually works.  If you
are so impoverished that you can't afford enough calories in
a day even just eating rice and beans, you'll lose weight and
be constantly hungry.  It's the same weak minded logic as
folks who assert that people in concentration camps always
lose weight - Remove any choice in what foods to eat and
any type of plan works just fine.


Many new low carbers have no idea how to shop for low carb
food without the expensive options.  Ignorance of how to shop
does not equal endless expensive meals.  It's a skill that gets
learned.


Life happens.  Any plan that doesn't take that into account has
a problem.  The addictive nature of high carb foods means that
some folks have to practice complete avoidance, and yet other
people don't get addictive reactions so they don't need to practice
complete avoidance.  It's necessary to learn what knocks each
person off plan and then avoid it.

Posted by tmclone on July 13, 2009, 12:34 pm
 


Most PEOPLE, low-carbers included, have no idea how to shop, period.
We buy
meat, dairy, nuts, fresh fruit and veggies, and very small amounts of
canned
or bottled foods like mayo, pickles, tomato sauce, etc.  That's it. I
am
always amazed when I look at the crap in most shopping carts. People
think
that buying prepared tomato sauce is just as good as buying a can of
just tomatoes and adding their own spices, veggies, etc., but they
don't know or don't care that many, if not most, commercial "heat-and-
eat" sauces contain high fructose corn syrup or other sugar. You can
spend $3 on a small jar of sugary junk or you can buy an armload of
cans containing just tomatoes and eat for a week.
And that's just the first example that popped into my head.

Eating low-carb isn't expensive, as long as you make the food from
scratch.
A home-made steak and salad dinner is less expensive than a frozen
pizza or
a meal of hamburger helper and rolls. And it takes less time to make,
too. People pay for "convenience" with their wallets and their health.
Shrug. At least they'll die young from diet-related illnesses thus
keeping the population in check.

Posted by Walter Bushell on July 14, 2009, 6:22 pm
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Doesn't say eat enough to satisfy hunger?

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