Posted by sf on May 29, 2009, 12:03 pm
On Fri, 29 May 2009 11:09:39 +0100, "john royce"
>Tescos recently put a bottle of vodka out on the shelves with all the other
>normal bottles of vodka with only *half* the usual percentage by volume of
>alcohol. It's called 'Vodkat' at only a pound less than the cheaper bottle
>of full strength vodka.
>So our party bowl of punch turned out very watery. I would call that
>'deception', but i suppose others would be quick to say you must read the
>'small' print on every Tesco's bottle and packet to avoid be caught out.
Deceptive packaging can be counteracted by consumer alertness. My
impression is that you weren't paying attention to anything other than
the price. It's like looking at what you think is a 16oz. package of
bacon at a "really good" price, getting it home, opening the package
and wondering where all the meat went. Then you realize your 16oz
package was only 12oz. BTDT, learned my lesson and didn't complain on
Usenet about it.
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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Posted by sf on May 30, 2009, 10:53 am
On Sat, 30 May 2009 11:04:21 +0100, " cupra"
>>> >>>> bluestar@mail.invalid says...
>>> >>> > tesco are selling those 'fire pits' round bowl fireplaces that
>>> >>> > you
>>> >>> > could have a small log fire on your patio.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > then they sell for £19 a paper compressor (apparently you make
>>> >>> > newspapers wet and then stuff them in and compress them, then
>>> >>> > when they dry out, kind of solid; they burn like logs of wood).
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > has anyone tried all this? the idea sounds great (who doesn't like
>>> >>> > a bonfire, even a tiny one) but how does it work out in reality?
>> i'm
>>> >>> > thinking if it was really good, people would have been doing it for
>>> >>> > years.. i know these compressors came on to the market years ago.
>>> >>> >
>>
>>
>> I don't know about the firepits or the paper compressor. But...
>>
>> Firewood, say oak, has a density ranging from 590-930 kg/cubic meter.
>> Paper
>> ranges from 250 kg/cubic meter up to 1500 kg/cubic meter. Printing paper
>> typically is around 800 kg/cubic meter (50 pounds per cubic foot). We
>> might
>> expect newsprint to be somewhat less.
>>
>> Still, it looks like newsprint falls into the density range of oak. You'd
>> probably do as well to just stack up the newspaper in the fire, and save
>> yourself the bother of compressing the stuff or making logs of the stuff.
>Heh - ever tried to burn a stack of newspaper in a fire? The top few pages
>burn and the rest just smoulders!
>I've got a wood compressor and it does work, however it's a hell of a lot of
>hard work for 5 mins burn time!
Those newspaper roller compressor things are old news, 10-20 years at
least. Didn't work as advertised then, sounds like they aren't any
better now. I just buy commercial "3 hour" logs and call it done.
Love them and don't miss real wood fires.
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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Posted by cupra on May 31, 2009, 4:42 pm
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>>> Still, it looks like newsprint falls into the density range of oak.
>>> You'd
>>> probably do as well to just stack up the newspaper in the fire, and save
>>> yourself the bother of compressing the stuff or making logs of the
>>> stuff.
>>
>>Heh - ever tried to burn a stack of newspaper in a fire? The top few pages
>>burn and the rest just smoulders!
>>
>>I've got a wood compressor and it does work, however it's a hell of a lot
>>of
>>hard work for 5 mins burn time!
>>
> Those newspaper roller compressor things are old news, 10-20 years at
> least. Didn't work as advertised then, sounds like they aren't any
> better now. I just buy commercial "3 hour" logs and call it done.
> Love them and don't miss real wood fires.
I use them every winter to complement real logs - 3 hour ones would bankrupt
me as my main heat source is wood!
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>normal bottles of vodka with only *half* the usual percentage by volume of
>alcohol. It's called 'Vodkat' at only a pound less than the cheaper bottle
>of full strength vodka.
>So our party bowl of punch turned out very watery. I would call that
>'deception', but i suppose others would be quick to say you must read the
>'small' print on every Tesco's bottle and packet to avoid be caught out.