Posted by Rod Speed on June 12, 2010, 5:01 pm
Tegger wrote
> Judy Zappacosta zappajNOSPAM@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid wrote
>> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
>> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value", which
>> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they) paid.
>> I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me
>> car quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.
>> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
>> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?
> What does it matter?
It does tell you the price they wont go below unless they are in a very
desperate situation financially and need to avoid going broke etc.
> Just get on-the-road quotes from a few dealerships
> in your area. Pick the lowest one. End of story.
Fraid not.
Posted by a real cheapskate on June 12, 2010, 5:03 pm
> Tegger wrote
> > Judy Zappacosta zappajNOS...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid wrote
> >> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
> >> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value", which
> >> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they) paid.
> >> I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me
> >> car quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.
> >> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
> >> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?
> > What does it matter?
> It does tell you the price they wont go below unless they are in a very
> desperate situation financially and need to avoid going broke etc.
> > Just get on-the-road quotes from a few dealerships
> > in your area. Pick the lowest one. End of story.
> Fraid not.
dealer cost is intentially obscured by a lot of manufacturer specials
givebacks and advertising sharing.
Posted by Tegger on June 12, 2010, 7:02 pm
>> Tegger wrote
>>
>> > Judy Zappacosta zappajNOS...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid
>> > wrote
>> >> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
>> >> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true
>> >> value", wh
> ich
>> >> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they)
>> >> paid. I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me
>> >> car quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.
>> >> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
>> >> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?
>> > What does it matter?
>>
>> It does tell you the price they wont go below unless they are in a
>> very desperate situation financially and need to avoid going broke
>> etc.
>>
>> > Just get on-the-road quotes from a few dealerships
>> > in your area. Pick the lowest one. End of story.
>>
>> Fraid not.
>
> dealer cost is intentially obscured by a lot of manufacturer specials
> givebacks and advertising sharing.
>
The point is that there will be a price below which they will simply
refuse to sell to you because they know somebody else will come along
and pay above that amount. That's why this "dealer cost" thing is
useless. The only useful thing is determining which dealer will give you
the lowest on-the-road quote. Therefore, you get on-the-road quotes and
pick the lowest one.
Then you spend the better part of an hour in purgatory while the salesman
and his manager try their very best to high-pressure you into caving-in and
signing for a higher price than they quoted.
Your only weapon is the threat of walking out. You must be -- and
explicitly appear to be -- completely unafraid of using that weapon.
The manager won't sign for your price? Then your asking price is too low.
End of story.
--
Tegger
Posted by Rod Speed on June 12, 2010, 7:53 pm
Tegger wrote:
>>> Tegger wrote
>>>
>>>> Judy Zappacosta zappajNOS...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid
>>>> wrote
>>>>> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
>>>>> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true
>>>>> value", wh
>> ich
>>>>> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they)
>>>>> paid. I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me
>>>>> car quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.
>>>>> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
>>>>> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?
>>>> What does it matter?
>>>
>>> It does tell you the price they wont go below unless they are in a
>>> very desperate situation financially and need to avoid going broke
>>> etc.
>>>
>>>> Just get on-the-road quotes from a few dealerships
>>>> in your area. Pick the lowest one. End of story.
>>>
>>> Fraid not.
>>
>> dealer cost is intentially obscured by a lot of manufacturer specials
>> givebacks and advertising sharing.
>>
> The point is that there will be a price below which they will simply
> refuse to sell to you because they know somebody else will come along
> and pay above that amount. That's why this "dealer cost" thing is
> useless. The only useful thing is determining which dealer will give
> you the lowest on-the-road quote. Therefore, you get on-the-road
> quotes and pick the lowest one.
> Then you spend the better part of an hour in purgatory while the
> salesman and his manager try their very best to high-pressure you
> into caving-in and signing for a higher price than they quoted.
> Your only weapon is the threat of walking out. You must be -- and
> explicitly appear to be -- completely unafraid of using that weapon.
> The manager won't sign for your price? Then your asking price is too
> low. End of story.
Its never that mindlessly black and white.
Posted by Tegger on June 13, 2010, 8:56 am
@mid.individual.net:
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>> Then you spend the better part of an hour in purgatory while the
>> salesman and his manager try their very best to high-pressure you
>> into caving-in and signing for a higher price than they quoted.
>>
>> Your only weapon is the threat of walking out. You must be -- and
>> explicitly appear to be -- completely unafraid of using that weapon.
>>
>> The manager won't sign for your price? Then your asking price is too
>> low. End of story.
>
> Its never that mindlessly black and white.
>
>
"Mindless"? Try sitting in the salesman's office for an hour while he and
his manager play vicious mind-games with you. "Mindless", my ass.
It takes, and I speak from personal experience, considerable personal
fortitude, savvy, and grit to tough-out the warfare wreaked upon the humble
buyer in the average new-car dealership.
My way is the /only/ way. Unless you're a many-times repeat customer for
that salesman, or your buddies own the dealership.
--
Tegger
>> Where can I get the dealer's true cost for a Honda Accord or CRV?
>> I went to Edmunds but they only have something called "true value", which
>> is not the dealer cost but what people (somehow told them they) paid.
>> I googled and found tons of car salesmen who would give me
>> car quotes by email if I gave them all my personal information.
>> But, I just anonymously want to find the dealer cost?
>> Does a website exist which will show us dealer cost?
> What does it matter?