Posted by Ohioguy on November 24, 2009, 8:04 pm
We started noticing our van sounding louder, and even a slight
rattling sound while it ran. I took a look at the underneath, and found
a U-bolt at the front of the muffler that had essentially rusted
through. It was hanging a bit loosely.
I then noticed some rust spots on the muffler itself. I pushed
against one, and my finger went through. Now we can smell the exhaust
when standing next to the vehicle. Obviously, the muffler needs to be
replaced.
We have a 1994 Dodge Caravan SE 3 Liter. I've read that if I took it
someplace like Midas, it would probably cost us $160-$260 to replace.
I've looked online and found mufflers ranging from $35 to $150. Most
of them seem to be "performance" mufflers, which I gather are loud, but
give the engine a little more power, and slightly better fuel mileage.
What I'd like is something close to the original one. I'm wondering
if anyone here has experience with this sort of thing.
Questions:
1) how difficult is it to replace a muffler?
2) are any special tools needed?
3) is there a good muffler company online that sells only quality
mufflers at a good price?
4) Is it worth doing this project on your own, rather than paying a
place like Midas or Muffler Brothers?
I've never done this before, but if it is a fairly straightforward
job of less than 2 hours, I might consider doing it. I just want to
make sure I don't get something that is the wrong size, and I'd really
prefer a quieter muffler - not a "performance" one.
Thanks!
Posted by Rod Speed on November 24, 2009, 10:59 pm
Ohioguy wrote:
> We started noticing our van sounding louder, and even a slight
> rattling sound while it ran. I took a look at the underneath, and
> found a U-bolt at the front of the muffler that had essentially rusted
> through. It was hanging a bit loosely.
> I then noticed some rust spots on the muffler itself. I pushed against one,
and my finger went through. Now we can
> smell the exhaust when standing next to the vehicle. Obviously, the muffler
needs to be replaced.
> We have a 1994 Dodge Caravan SE 3 Liter. I've read that if I took
> it someplace like Midas, it would probably cost us $160-$260 to replace.
> I've looked online and found mufflers ranging from $35 to $150. Most of them
seem to be "performance" mufflers,
> which I gather are
> loud, but give the engine a little more power, and slightly better
> fuel mileage.
> What I'd like is something close to the original one. I'm wondering
> if anyone here has experience with this sort of thing.
> Questions:
> 1) how difficult is it to replace a muffler?
Its not necessarily that easy to get the old one off the pipe.
> 2) are any special tools needed?
Yeah, if it wont come off the pipe.
> 3) is there a good muffler company online that sells only quality
> mufflers at a good price?
Nope.
> 4) Is it worth doing this project on your own, rather than paying a place like
Midas or Muffler Brothers?
Really depends on how easy it is to get the old one off.
> I've never done this before, but if it is a fairly straightforward
> job of less than 2 hours, I might consider doing it. I just want to
> make sure I don't get something that is the wrong size, and I'd really prefer
a quieter muffler - not a "performance"
> one.
I've always paid more for a stainless steel muffler that lasts much longer.
In fact I only ever changed the muffler once on the Golf I kept for 35+ years.
Posted by Rod Speed on November 25, 2009, 2:39 pm
Al wrote
>> Ohioguy wrote
>>> We started noticing our van sounding louder, and even a slight
>>> rattling sound while it ran. I took a look at the underneath, and
>>> found a U-bolt at the front of the muffler that had essentially
>>> rusted through. It was hanging a bit loosely.
>>> I then noticed some rust spots on the muffler itself. I pushed
>>> against one, and my finger went through. Now we can smell the
>>> exhaust when standing next to the vehicle. Obviously, the muffler
>>> needs to be replaced.
>>> We have a 1994 Dodge Caravan SE 3 Liter. I've read that if I took
>>> it someplace like Midas, it would probably cost us $160-$260 to replace.
>>> I've looked online and found mufflers ranging from $35 to $150.
>>> Most of them seem to be "performance" mufflers, which I gather are
>>> loud, but give the engine a little more power, and slightly better
>>> fuel mileage.
>>> What I'd like is something close to the original one. I'm wondering
>>> if anyone here has experience with this sort of thing.
>>> Questions:
>>> 1) how difficult is it to replace a muffler?
>> Its not necessarily that easy to get the old one off the pipe.
>>> 2) are any special tools needed?
>> Yeah, if it wont come off the pipe.
>>> 3) is there a good muffler company online that sells only quality
>>> mufflers at a good price?
>> Nope.
>>> 4) Is it worth doing this project on your own, rather than paying a
>>> place like Midas or Muffler Brothers?
>> Really depends on how easy it is to get the old one off.
>>> I've never done this before, but if it is a fairly straightforward
>>> job of less than 2 hours, I might consider doing it. I just want to
>>> make sure I don't get something that is the wrong size, and I'd
>>> really prefer a quieter muffler - not a "performance" one.
>> I've always paid more for a stainless steel muffler that lasts much longer.
>> In fact I only ever changed the muffler once on the Golf I kept for 35+ years.
> PS. The reason those quotes are up in the $260 range is because
> they suspect that the entire cat back system needs to be replaced.
Or they are playing safe and including that in the quote.
If they are honest, they wont charge for that if it isnt required.
Posted by Shawn Hirn on November 25, 2009, 7:36 pm
> We started noticing our van sounding louder, and even a slight
> rattling sound while it ran. I took a look at the underneath, and found
> a U-bolt at the front of the muffler that had essentially rusted
> through. It was hanging a bit loosely.
Try posting your question on the rec.autos.driving.chrysler newsgroup.
Posted by Ohioguy on November 26, 2009, 10:07 am
I have 2 options now:
1- muffler brothers - probably about $160
2 - my neighbor, who works on brakes, mufflers and such, says he will be
home with his kids this weekend, and they would enjoy working on
something like this. He has an air chisel, and various other tools that
could be needed, depending on how easy things come apart. I think my
son would also enjoy working on something like this, so it would be a
learning/fun project for several of us. I checked locally, and I can
get a muffler for $50-$60. Then I could give my neighbor $50 for the
trouble, and buy a couple of pizzas for everybody, and STILL end up
saving about 50 bucks. I'm sort of tempted to go this second route.
Oh, and yes, we have the '69 Ford Econoline as a backup vehicle, but
also have a 2001 Buick. Having 1 vehicle out of commission for a week
is not much trouble.
> rattling sound while it ran. I took a look at the underneath, and
> found a U-bolt at the front of the muffler that had essentially rusted
> through. It was hanging a bit loosely.
> I then noticed some rust spots on the muffler itself. I pushed against one,