how much did I pay for our house? (for tax purposes)
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how much did I pay for our house? (for tax purposes) Ohioguy 02-23-2010
Posted by Ohioguy on February 23, 2010, 2:32 pm
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We just bought a HUD owned home at auction. There are many different
numbers on the papers I look at in the paperwork, but I'm not sure which
to use for tax purposes.

For example, the total "bid" we made was $60k, but the papers show
that of that HUD paid $2k themselves in "closing costs", and another
roughly $4k went to the real estate agent as a commission. So that
means that the seller of the home got only about $54k from us.

Even if you include the commission to the realtor, we really only
paid $58k, since HUD paid $2k.

Not sure if I have to include the commission paid to the realtor
and/or the $2k in closing costs that HUD paid itself. Would like to put
a number down less than the full $60k, but not sure if I can. The FHA
guy at closing said that we could use $54k for tax purposes, since that
is what we actually paid HUD for the property, but I'm wondering if the
local city tax folks would really allow that. Our closing papers show
$60k as what we offered, and make no mention of the $2k HUD paid in
closing. The $4k commission is only mentioned on other papers.

Thanks!

Posted by Gene S. Berkowitz on February 23, 2010, 6:27 pm
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says...
> We just bought a HUD owned home at auction. There are many different
> numbers on the papers I look at in the paperwork, but I'm not sure which
> to use for tax purposes.
>
> For example, the total "bid" we made was $60k, but the papers show
> that of that HUD paid $2k themselves in "closing costs", and another
> roughly $4k went to the real estate agent as a commission. So that
> means that the seller of the home got only about $54k from us.
>
> Even if you include the commission to the realtor, we really only
> paid $58k, since HUD paid $2k.
>
> Not sure if I have to include the commission paid to the realtor
> and/or the $2k in closing costs that HUD paid itself. Would like to put
> a number down less than the full $60k, but not sure if I can. The FHA
> guy at closing said that we could use $54k for tax purposes, since that
> is what we actually paid HUD for the property, but I'm wondering if the
> local city tax folks would really allow that. Our closing papers show
> $60k as what we offered, and make no mention of the $2k HUD paid in
> closing. The $4k commission is only mentioned on other papers.
>
> Thanks!


You paid $60K for the house.
HUD paid $2K to close the mortgage, NOT to buy the house.
The Seller (HUD) paid the Realtor the $4K commission out of their
earnings (your $60K).

No matter how you slice it, *you* paid $60K, and that's what you
should declare.

--Gene

Posted by The Henchman on February 23, 2010, 7:27 pm
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> We just bought a HUD owned home at auction. There are many different
> numbers on the papers I look at in the paperwork, but I'm not sure which
> to use for tax purposes.
>
> For example, the total "bid" we made was $60k, but the papers show that
> of that HUD paid $2k themselves in "closing costs", and another roughly
> $4k went to the real estate agent as a commission. So that means that the
> seller of the home got only about $54k from us.
>
> Even if you include the commission to the realtor, we really only paid
> $58k, since HUD paid $2k.
>
> Not sure if I have to include the commission paid to the realtor and/or
> the $2k in closing costs that HUD paid itself. Would like to put a number
> down less than the full $60k, but not sure if I can. The FHA guy at
> closing said that we could use $54k for tax purposes, since that is what
> we actually paid HUD for the property, but I'm wondering if the local city
> tax folks would really allow that. Our closing papers show $60k as what
> we offered, and make no mention of the $2k HUD paid in closing. The $4k
> commission is only mentioned on other papers.
>
> Thanks!

I assummed you are talking about claiming this purchase on your income tax
return to qualify for tax refunds or credits, related to this house
purchase. Is this a correct assumption?

The closing papers show offered?? The closing papers should say purchase
price. The closing papers come from your lawyer do they not? Offer papers
come from your real estate agent, if you used one in your case.

Out of curiosity is Ohioguy allowed to claim any expenses such as title/lien
insurance, home inspection, real estate lawyer fees, township tax adjustment
etc that he paid out of pocket to complete the purchase on his federal
income tax filing?


Posted by Ohioguy on February 24, 2010, 10:52 am
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<and then there are people who build a 625 square foot house for free..>

CHARDON, OH —

A guy in Ohio has built himself a place where he can really chill out: a
625-square-foot house made of snow and equipped with cable television
and a flat screen TV.

Jim Grey started his cold construction project at the beginning of
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Cleveland suburb of Chardon. He kept building and building, and now has
a snow structure that spans four rooms with 6-foot ceilings, including
the entertainment room with the TV, a surround-sound system and strobe
lights.

Grey’s friend, A.J. Fay, says it was “cool” watching a little pile of
snow grow into a full-size igloo.

Grey says his work isn’t done. He’s now adding a guest bedroom in case
of visitors.

Posted by James on February 24, 2010, 1:51 pm
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> <and then there are people who build a 625 square foot house for free..>
>
> CHARDON, OH =97
>
> A guy in Ohio has built himself a place where he can really chill out: a
> 625-square-foot house made of snow and equipped with cable television
> and a flat screen TV.
>
> Jim Grey started his cold construction project at the beginning of
> January when a storm left a load of snow in his family=92s yard in the
> Cleveland suburb of Chardon. He kept building and building, and now has
> a snow structure that spans four rooms with 6-foot ceilings, including
> the entertainment room with the TV, a surround-sound system and strobe
> lights.
>
> Grey=92s friend, A.J. Fay, says it was =93cool=94 watching a little pile =
of
> snow grow into a full-size igloo.
>
> Grey says his work isn=92t done. He=92s now adding a guest bedroom in cas=
e
> of visitors.

Thats nothing...check out the ice hotel in Quebec
http://www.icehotel-canada.com/

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